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jayluvmito
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: yamaha r6 at 17... Reply with quote

think insurance will be expensive? i can get a new r6 for about £5500 and i kno my mate pays £800 to insure a hornet. i live in a high risk area, so does any body know about this? thanks


edit, meantr £800


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PostPosted: 23:03 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phone some insurance companies and get quotes, it's very simple.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

thundercat 600 might be cheaper, am 17 and the thundecat is £400 less
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Re: yamaha r6 at 17... Reply with quote

jayluvmito wrote:
think insurance will be expensive? i can get a new r6 for about £5500 and i kno my mate pays 3800 to insure a hornet. i live in a high risk area, so does any body know about this? thanks


All things being equal, the insurance for an R6 would be more than for a Hornet. The fact that you would presumably need to have the R6 restricted won't make any difference to the insurance cost.

This might be a rude question, but how does someone living in a "high risk area" afford nearly four grand a year for insurance?!
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Re: yamaha r6 at 17... Reply with quote

impaler wrote:
jayluvmito wrote:
think insurance will be expensive? i can get a new r6 for about £5500 and i kno my mate pays 3800 to insure a hornet. i live in a high risk area, so does any body know about this? thanks


All things being equal, the insurance for an R6 would be more than for a Hornet. The fact that you would presumably need to have the R6 restricted won't make any difference to the insurance cost.

This might be a rude question, but how does someone living in a "high risk area" afford nearly four grand a year for insurance?!



meant £800 Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably should have guessed that myself... Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 09 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

An R6 is a far higher insurance group, and a new one at £5500 would be very expensive to insure (and some companies will not insure bikes of that kind of value for anything other than fully comp).

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PostPosted: 00:00 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best thing to do is get quotes before you buy the bike, or see if you can get it as part of a deal if it is new from a dealer.

Have you bought it already?
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

How much experience have you got?

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PostPosted: 00:26 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, I've recently bought a 2004 Yamaha R6 for £5700 brand new! I'm 18 and as I pass my test next week my insurance is £1067 TPFT from Carole Nash... I got some mad qutoes for £3800, and £4000 so here's some tips;

Arrow Search around all insurance companies
Arrow Don't buy a 2005 model, will ^ the price of insurance
Arrow Say the bike is worth £5000, saying my bike was worth £5700 ^ my quote by £350
Arrow Make sure you have a brick built garage and a good alarm system, will also help!
Arrow Give Carole Nash a ring, or MC Direct... my cheapest quotes!

If you feel it necessary to not do this you will end up with a quote of nearing £1800 TPFT

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PostPosted: 00:42 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hennessy wrote:
Say the bike is worth £5000, saying my bike was worth £5700 ^ my quote by £350


...but will reduce the amount you get if it's nicked or written off!
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

wel i have no experiance...i havent bought the bike, i have a sv650sk3 but i might give it back for a r6 is i could get a £1300 insurance quote...

and hennesey, this is a 204 model, the 2005 model is £5995, and for addition of usd's whihc i would never push the their limit i wouldnt bother....just get these sorted is i ever felt the need! might have a ring to carole nash on monday. then Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

impaler wrote:
...but will reduce the amount you get if it's nicked or written off!


Yes but you might not actually have the money to insure it with at £800 dearer... And what's £700 difference guna make anyway the insurance company will still try and screw you over and at TPFT it will probably take ten years anyway!

Jayluvmito, I might leave it a while and learn some stuff on the SV650S as its a sports tourer and doesnt have the power the R6 has as its a supersports! Although you will need a restrictor kit put on there it may feel like you've got a lot more power than the SV probably does...

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PostPosted: 00:56 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hennessy wrote:
impaler wrote:
...but will reduce the amount you get if it's nicked or written off!


Yes but you might not actually have the money to insure it with at £800 dearer... And what's £700 difference guna make anyway the insurance company will still try and screw you over and at TPFT it will probably take ten years anyway!

Jayluvmito, I might leave it a while and learn some stuff on the SV650S as its a sports tourer and doesnt have the power the R6 has as its a supersports! Although you will need a restrictor kit put on there it may feel like you've got a lot more power than the SV probably does...

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dont see how a v twin power to stright 4 would feel less...?

i dont know lol

im only planning to do it because my dad is fuckign me about with it and im not intertested. i have my full test in 6 weeks, so if i get a cheque from the insurance company before then i will proberly do it.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

well for a start the SV650S only produces 70bhp, where as the R6 produces 119bhp... The restrictor obviously restricts it to a 33bhp on both machines but the power seems different somehow Question I duno if its just me or the SV, but the SV seems sluggush and don't seem to want to corner as well as what the R6 does.

If you get one you will notice the difference! Maybe some technical person can care to explain?

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PostPosted: 01:04 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea...spose i just gotta be sensible. and the r6 should corner sliiightly better. lol
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

well they are supposedly the same weight 169kg, so power to weight ratio may have some effect on this... My mate has bought a SV650S K4 and is dissapointed in the way it corners and the power it produces at certain levels.

I say Supersports all the way, much more fun!

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PostPosted: 01:19 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SV650 will be the better bike restricted (handling aside), it'll have more torque and you'll be able to use more of the rev range. Saying that you may find the R6 has a better top end due to the fairing etc.

It's upto you at the end of the day.

Also they'll be realistically around 100-105BHP for the R6 and 60-65BHP for the SV650.
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hennessy wrote:
as I pass my test next week


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PostPosted: 09:39 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DynaMight wrote:


Also they'll be realistically around 100-105BHP for the R6 and 60-65BHP for the SV650.


Surely they'll both be 33bhp Question
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy an R6 - SV650s crash better and you are a newbie.

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PostPosted: 11:07 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayluvmito wrote:
dont see how a v twin power to stright 4 would feel less...?


Low power 650 twin to a very high power 600 4. Not only will the R6 be more difficult to ride, but the power will be far more focused in one area. The brakes will be far sharper (likely to see you eating tarmac when your inexperience causes you to brake at the wrong moment) and with far quicker handling.

You will almost certainly drop it. Rather easy to write off a fully faired sports bike (eg, common one on the R1 was dropping it lightly on the right, which pushed the exhaust into the swinging arm, and a new swinging arm was well over £1000). Sure you might not be bothered by some of this damage, but anyone who wants to buy the bike off you will be.

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PostPosted: 11:52 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Don't buy an R6 - SV650s crash better and you are a newbie.

Sorry.


sorry? for stating the obvious? if i was thinking of the practicality of the bike from dropping it then i shouldnt be riding a bike. i would rather just focus on trying not to crash thanks.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayluvmito wrote:
i would rather just focus on trying not to crash thanks.


True, but choosing a nervous sports bike as your first large bike is hardly the best way to avoid crashing.

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PostPosted: 12:08 - 10 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
jayluvmito wrote:
i would rather just focus on trying not to crash thanks.


True, but choosing a nervous sports bike as your first large bike is hardly the best way to avoid crashing.

All the best

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i could get hit by a car just as much on a r6 as i did on my moped.

cant see how its any more dangerous than my mate, who ride s a 33bhp hornet, but rides everywhere flat out and as high in the rev range as he possibly can....like to think i have a bit more sense than that.
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