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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Paddock stand Reply with quote

Hi,

You would never think I've been riding over 2 and a half years asking such a newbie question like this!!!

Thing is, I've never had any need to have a paddock stand. Until now.

With my NSR it wasn't a problem as it's so light. The ER-5 had a centre stand.

When I bought the ZZR600, the guy gave me his paddock stand with the bike.

Now, what's the best technique to get the bike on it without dropping the bike? Anyone in the know will realise it is quite a heavy bike to hold up with one hand, but surely there must be a knack to it?

I'm just scared of dropping the bike!!! Laughing

Any tips/info much appreciated! Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 21:30 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

funnily enough I was wrestling with my ZX6 + paddock stand last week

I left the sidestand down and stood behind the bike and gently lifted the bike upright using the pillion grips (from behind).

I practiced lifting it upright and then lowering it onto the sidestand a few times.

Then I slid the paddock stand roughly over the back wheel, then lifted the bike upright. Using one hand to keep the bike balanced upright (always being ready to tip the bike to the left onto the sidestand if there was a problem) I used the otherhand to guide the paddockstands lugs to roughly the right position along the swingarm.

Then I adjusted the lugs (this was difficult still balancing the bike)

Then I used both hands to hold the bike and using my foot pushed down on the stand and levered the bike up - Its a bit of a leap of faith

When lowering it, I lifted the paddock stand with my foot and the bike slid off, then I tipped it to the sidestand side and - voila !!!!

Mind you, it IS a bit fiddly and has me cursing everytime

If you can, get a friend to hold the bike steady whilst u practice and experiment with the best position for the lugs.

Good luck Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't your zzr have a centre stand? My dads does. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your struggling,

try putting a block of wood under the sidestand as it will keep the bike more upright.

Personally I just put my bike on sidestand, then slide paddock stand under the left swingarm and push down whilst supporting the rear of the bike with the grabrail. The bike will lift upright and the other swingarm will drop into the right cup of the paddock stand.

Now getting it back down again...............


get some help until you are used to it
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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try putting a block of wood under the sidestand as it will keep the bike more upright


bloody good idea !!!!
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've put mine on the paddock stand twice now, i find the easiest way is to put the hooks on the cotton reels, leave the sidestand down just in case, put a bit of pressure on the paddock stand to ease the bike into a vertical position whilst balancing the weight of the bike with the other hand.. once you have the paddock stand on two wheels just push it down to the ground...

bringing it back off the paddock stand is just as easy.

once you've done it once you've done it a million times.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What i used to do with a normal one is put a piece of wood under the stand to make the bike level first.

Whilst on the subject of stands, i've just bought an abba stand, they are brilliant, absolute ease to get the bike on and off the stand and very, very stable once in the air. Smile

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really need to invest in a set of paddock stands
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidestand down, get the paddock stand in roughly the right place, straighten the bike with left hand and guide onto cups or reels, push down on stand with right hand. Once its located in the paddock stand it won't go anywhere.

When lowering it make sure the sidestand is down and the bars are straight, lift the stand and lean the bike to the left.

Its a knack but easy once you have done it.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 03 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

OT: Does this abba stand lift the WHOLE bike up?

Can just see me having more problems. Both wheels off and the front forks off. It'll just have to sit on it's downpipes then.
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
Doesn't your zzr have a centre stand? My dads does. Laughing


Think it used to at some point in it's 12 year life!

Glad it doesn't really, they're difficult to clean properly and are a bit fugly Confused

Seems I've been doing this right afterall. Obviously just need more practice to be confident at it.

Greg - think those Abba stands just do the same as a rear paddock stand (I think) i.e. the front wheel still touches the deck.

Thanks for all the comments guys! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not yet tried the paddock stand on my own. Easy as pie with a mate to help, but I've taken off the grab rails so there's noweher to support the bike....

Anyway, so it's ok to raise the bike with a car jack pushing onto the pipes underneath?

I'd never considered that. I'd been told wood + trolley jack in the middle of the bike would raise the front, but figured I couldn't push onto the pipes as they'd bend..... Embarassed

So before I go home tonight and bend my pipes, can someone tell me that they've done this already with no problems?
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

niff5855 get my vote. Thanks 'Tips'.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ! Lee_367, do you get to take your bike into the livingroom?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a pic of how to change a fork leg trackside with no stand at all Cool

over on the sidestand to lift the front wheel off the deck

van spare wheel slotted under

ratchet strap rear of bike to van to keep it stable


job done Wink
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guy has the same leathers as me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guy is the very excellent John Warrington of JW Motorcycles in Malton - ripping out his own fork leg so that we could swap it with mine and I could continue racing.

top mechanic, top man Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well tell him he has good taste in leathers Thumbs Up Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 04 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Christ! Lee_367, do you get to take your bike into the livingroom?
Lucky.

Nope, thats my garage, when the lounge was re-carpeted, i had the old stuff and did the garage with it. Laughing
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