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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Secure-a-Bike? Reply with quote

Hi, has anyone ever heard of this, or prehaps even got one? I'll be moving to a new house and unfortunately, there isn't a garage there so there is no where for the bike. If I don't have it garaged the insurance is huge so I was looking around for security and I found this;

https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4193/secureabike2bh.jpg

Now I think it's a good idea, very very pricey but what do you all think of it? That would save a fortune in the long run but is it worth it, is there any other alternatives for keeping my bike safe?

Here's there site, check out their video for it:

https://www.secure-a-bike.com/
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to say but i don;t think that it will save you much on your insurance as most specify that it to be garaged it has to be in a brick building Rolling Eyes Thumbs Down
but for own piece of mind and you have got the cash go for it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply White Noise. I was reading the site, and it said that insurers are classing it as a garage, regardless of it not being stone. I certainly don't have the money on tap, I'd have to save a while but after reading figures about stolen bikes (33,000 are nicked every year, one every 16 minutes, and only 14ish% are recovered), I want my puppy kept safe. Is there prehaps a cheaper option?
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody expensive, IMO.

Even if there's no garage available, if there's a small piece of ground available, why don't you just pay £50-£80 for a decent ground anchor and chain the bike to the floor ?

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PostPosted: 21:27 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

enrique86 wrote:
Thanks for the reply White Noise. I was reading the site, and it said that insurers are classing it as a garage, regardless of it not being stone. I certainly don't have the money on tap, I'd have to save a while but after reading figures about stolen bikes (33,000 are nicked every year, one every 16 minutes, and only 14ish% are recovered), I want my puppy kept safe. Is there prehaps a cheaper option?


you will have to check with the insurers on that one, but be weary about it as they could trip you up on it at a later date, by the looks of the construction of the doors they look easier to get through than a really good lock,it looks like there is only a single pole that links the top and bottom of the door to the main structure, and looks as though it could be bent under force. plus you maybe put into a false sense of security by this bike shed and may only start to use one lock on it
as another option it depends on the garden you have, can you access the rear of the property, and if so how easy is it? in any case rather than having one of these i would be happier with 2 ground achoars put in with big/good locks on, and a couple of easier cable loops attached, then a cover over the top that is lockable, i know that this is major or considered over the top. but all locks and chains can be cut its just a case of time, one more line of defence will slow or purturb the would thief a little more, think this months ride magazine has reviews of locks in it
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advantage of that is that people cannot touch it/knock it over.

If they have the tools to get into it chances are they will get it.

However if its simply tied to a ground anchor people could damage it attempting to steal it. or push it over when they cannot.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most garage doors can be ripped open if you can get something underneath anyway.

Garages don't have to be made of brick at all. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in two minds now, don't know wether to go for the anchors with some good, strong heavy duty chains and locks. With it in that, there's less chance of them nicking parts of it. I suppose I could get the anchors, locks etc, put a cover on it and hope for the best. I will be getting an alarm/immobilizer for the bike, any suggestions? I was thinking on either the Abletronics Absolute Protec or the Datatool System 3.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a 10ft x 10ft container and plonk it in your garden.
Its actually cheaper than one of those:P and you get a hell of alot more room to work on bike ha
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered it dransy, not much room in the garden then for my nephews. No doubt the though insurance company wouldn't think it was safe.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

true , i got quite a biggish garden but ill have to build a ramp going down into it as we have a patio then like a 4 foot drop into the garden.
Ive seen them for hire for 5quid a week which isnt that bad but cant see any prices yet.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could buy alot of bike for 2 grand. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

enrique86, my mate keeps his new VFR in one of those. And he says his insurers accept it as locked shed/garage.
I know ins. companies sometimes ask type of garage but then that's up to the individual company, your location etc.
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I'd have one of those things next to my flat if I could. Good idea.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Walloper. How much did your mate pay for his? Is it the same manufacturer? Do you know if they are strong too?
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some insurers specify "brick-built" when they ask if your bike is garaged overnight, i know mine certainly did. How much would a garage cost? if you did the ground work, excavating the topsiol etc. yourself, i'm sure you could save a bit of cash on the cost.

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then I'd have to get planning permission as it is a 'permanent building', and that could take some time. But roughly, how much would it be for one to built?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 14 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

enrique86 wrote:
But then I'd have to get planning permission as it is a 'permanent building', and that could take some time. But roughly, how much would it be for one to built?


not in all cases, my neighbout built a garage and found out he didnt need to get palnning permission due to the size of it, and the fact that its not a habitable building.

best thing to do is phone your local planning office Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 15 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll TXT the mate today and find out how much he paid for his tin shed. He's at work in the Sahara right now but he'll not mind as long as it's bike connected he's game.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 15 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jebus, you could build yourself a brick version for nowhere near that price!
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 15 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few of these about, although I suspect some are the same box with a different name on it.

Try these:
Arrow https://www.secure-a-bike.com/
Arrow https://www.trimetals.co.uk/motorcycle.php?m=3
Arrow https://www.bikesafe.info
Arrow https://www.securit.gb.com/

FWIW if I had to buy one of these I'd choose the BikeSafe one.

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PostPosted: 11:17 - 15 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motoeurope.com/bikesafe.html
My just txt me back to say he paid £600.oo for the above unit Smile
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 15 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies everyone, a great help.
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