Plans to stop bikers?

[fuzz]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but after a discussion tonight at Bassetts Pole, I thought I would check out the MCN Website and see for myself.

They haven't given much away (find out tommorrow in the paper) but it appears that they will be making the test somewhat impossible. What's going on?
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[Walloper]

You work for the magazine? Now everyone will go out and buy it tomorrow
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[White Noise]

would anyone like to repeat afterme

"MCN sensationalism"

WN
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[Aikman666]

They just cant go and do something like that. It will inspire people to ride unlicenced, therefore uninsured and probably inexperienced, raising the accident rate. I think this is a right bull plot to be pulled and will cause more trouble than it prevents. Because lets face it guys if you got biking in your blood, you arent going to stop because some fat ass politician has a grudge against bikes. I wouldent
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[dransy]

They dont actually say what they are going to do?
And like aikman666 said people will ride illegally
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[Walloper]

No I think if they impose a ban on biking. Then it will just fade away as steam trains have.
As by that time we'll be riding rocket jets with 150,000lbs thrust hydrogen cell power plants.
With forcefields that allow the wind to blow through your hair but prevent things like bird shit and spit from cunts in cars hitting you in the face.
Roll on the future....
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[Aikman666]

[BenBray]

I dont think bikers will go off the roads any time soon.

As for the test getting harder.. I'll be booking mine asap

[fuzz]

According to MCN, if the law passes, by 2011 the test will become too complex for anyone under the age of 24 to bother with.

That's right, the age for DAS will rise to 24. The current restricted licence (A2) will get complicated as you will need to take a 47BHP test at the end of your 2 year restriction of 15bhp, 125cc only (no more 33bhp) and then be further restricted to 47BHP for 2 years, at the end of which you will automatically have a full unrestricted licence. That's going to add about £300 onto the cost of the licence for under 24 year olds.

Still, if there is any truth in it, the earliest it can happen is 2011, so you've all got plenty of time to get your tests in.
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[tatters]

was,nt there talk of a european 100bhp limt a few years ago?
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[yorkshirelad3]

could you imagine that?
mr european court : you cant ride bikes over 100bhp any more pal,

mr biker : fuck off

EC : They are more dnagerous blah blah blah

Biker : Fuck off

EC : well your not riding your bike till its restricted

Biker : fuck off

and so on till someone cracks someone, i for one (even as a learner) would protest against such restrictions,

[Sadie]

It's not a secret and the BMF and MAG have been banging on about it for some time.

As usual, most of you are not listening, but hey ho!

You can find out a bit more here.


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[kawakid]

Come on its 6 years away.

It is a bummer for under 24s though.

DOn't think anyone would bother with the 125 route.

Couldn't imagine on a 125 for all that time.

There'd be no insentive to do it, why not just do a CBT and ride as a Learner, then wait till your 24.

I think in Holland, they do somet simmilar, where they restrict you to up to 500cc to the age of 25.
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[Sadie]

[Walloper]

I'm happy to see more training as a prerequisite to obtaining a driving licence for any powered vehicle. (And man powered)

I didn't fully absorb the document as I rapidly lost interest thanks to to the idiotic pre-amble.

Is it the ages are the issue?
Then where is the problem?

It just means we live a little before we die in a road traffic accident.

I wholeheartedly agree that motorcycling groups SHOULD be consulted in these matters.
But I have regularly seen that we also get some immature response/advice from some of the fraternity at BCF (16/66 yr olds).

I believe the issue has european's safety as primary concern but may not be the most best way to achieve this.

I may re-visit the article later.

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[Sadie]

One of the major problems with the 3rd EC Driving Licence Directive is that, in order to get your full licence, you will need to pass you test on an 800cc machine.

Currently, people pass DAS on a 500cc machine and then a fair number of these people go and buy a 600cc machine in order to feel that they are riding a machine bigger than their "learner" bike.

If this translates going forward, you will have a lot of people getting their licence and going out on a 900cc machine that they haven't got the experience for.

Another major issue is that the current laws relating to restricted motorcycle licences are not enforced - it is unlikely that new ones will be enforced either, meaning that then, as now, we will have many riders on the road who are not licenced appropriately.
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[fuzz]

So the UK government also want to impose a minimum capacity for A2 and A tests - 600cc for A2 and 800cc for A. That's going to require more training to get used to the larger capacity machines. But surely there will also be a power & power/weight limit for the A2 test, aswell as minimun specs for both tests.

I don't disagree that more restriction/training would be beneficial, but it should apply to everyone. Why not limit new car drivers to 1.2L for two years or something similar?
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[Sadie]

It's not the UK Government, it's coming from Europe.
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[fuzz]

[Walloper]

I'm happy to see more training as a prerequisite to obtaining a driving licence for any powered vehicle. (And man powered)

I'm with you fuzz
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[Tarmacsurfer]

[biggerjohn]

[fuzz]

But if the young car drivers were made to train longer/harder wouldn't there also be a reduction in the amount of bike accidents?
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