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fuzz
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Re-registering a stolen bike? Reply with quote

How is it possible for a bike theif to re-register a bike they stole in their own name and make it legally theirs? If a bike has been reported stolen, surely any change made to the registration details should be treated with suspicion. The DVLA send a letter to the registered keeper saying their bike is to be re-registered by A. Theif and if they don't respond in 14 days, the bike legally becomes their property. I still can't get my head around this, I don't see how it can happen.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That article in MCN is a load of bollocks, there's more to that case than meets the eye. Registering it at DVLA shows you to be the registered KEEPER not necessarily the actual OWNER, your ownership rights over property can't be taken from you simply by the DVLA putting it in someone else's name. As I say there is something wrong in that case, perhaps more of a civil dispute over the bike etc which is why the police aren't acting. For example a bike on HP is actually owned by the company that finances it until it's paid for but it is registered in your name. You are the registered keeper but not the owner.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured they were talking crap, it didn't make any sense to me at all, but it's best to look into these thing 'just in case'.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The log book means nothing as far as ownership goes. If you buy a stolen vehicle that is bad luck, you loose it with your only source of recompense being getting the money back from the person you bought it from.

It would seem that all that is happening is that those with stolen vehicles are reporting their details indirectly to the police. Why the police are unwilling to act on these details is unknown (and quite possibly down to issues of who actually owns the bike).

Really cannot see why the DVLA should ever issue a log book for a bike that is still recorded as stolen. Mind you, it is the DVLA, hardly known for efficiency.

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PostPosted: 15:09 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Really cannot see why the DVLA should ever issue a log book for a bike that is still recorded as stolen. Mind you, it is the DVLA, hardly known for efficiency.


Stolen bikes are cleared off the stolen register after 2 years or so to keep the system clean. I just received the log book for a stolen recovered stolen back in 1999 and no longer on the register in 7 working days using the V62 form.
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fuzz
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 years I can understand. 2 weeks is unbelievable.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
2 years I can understand. 2 weeks is unbelievable.


2 weeks they generally haven't even made it onto the stolen register. The Police often don't put it on in case it turns up.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 18 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Stolen bikes are cleared off the stolen register after 2 years or so to keep the system clean.


Bit pathetic really. Hardly like it takes up much space to have a single 1 bit marker for "stolen" on the DVLA computer.

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PostPosted: 03:14 - 19 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your bikes gone for more than 2 weeks you aint getting it back.

i found that out.
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PostPosted: 03:59 - 19 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're driving behind a Porsche. You clock the registration. You go to the post office and fill in a V62. A couple of weeks later, you are the registered keeper of that Porsche. You can obtain insurance and tax.

Strange but true...
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 19 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciaronr6 wrote:
You're driving behind a Porsche. You clock the registration. You go to the post office and fill in a V62. A couple of weeks later, you are the registered keeper of that Porsche. You can obtain insurance and tax.

Strange but true...


Thankfully it's not quite as easy as that! The V62 would not enable you to become the registered keeper of any random vehicle as your name and address is not the same as the records held at DVLA. They will not change over the registered keeper until they first receive confirmation from the original keeper that they have sold/transferred the vehicle. Since 2003 this now MUST be the appropriate section of the V5. If not then the original keeper must first fill out a V62 to gain a new V5 for themselves.

The V62 is really out-of-date now but still produced to cover any eventuality.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 19 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
[They will not change over the registered keeper until they first receive confirmation from the original keeper that they have sold/transferred the vehicle.


They will change the V5 without the registered keepers authority but how you do it I'm not about to tell you.

I just received a V5 using a V62 form for a bike that was in someone elses name in under 2 weeks.
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