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dransy
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: End Cans Reply with quote
Hi all im thinking about getting a race end can for my rs , well if i can find one for cheap on ebay.

Just woundering if i get an end can , can i just slip it straight on or will i have to alter jet sizes *Etc?

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PostPosted: 14:09 - 29 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
The general rule is that if you change the can only, and its position, length and bore dont alter, you're fine. But having it set up on a rolling road will give you peace of mind, and having the dyno graphs will really help resale.

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RS125_Tecky
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PostPosted: 05:48 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wouldnt bother slipping just an end can on. Waste of money.

An arrow end can, can be put onto the stock chamber, but you will get no extra performance. It might sound alittle tinnier but adding an arrow end can gives the same performance as the stock can.

Best bet is to get a full pipe. JL is probably the best, the single giving slight more power than the twin. Or if you get a full arrow pipe (although it will more than likely be stamped 'for race use') you will get some extra performance.

Personally I'd go for a JL.

Just put a JL twin on my bike and it looks and sounds amazing.

As for jet sizes, if just adding a can I wouldnt bother re-jetitng, if you get a full exhaust go up to a 122 main, although a 120 main should be ok. Be safer with the 122.

Getting a 34mm carb will help...
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Misc
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PostPosted: 05:50 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get the arror there quality, I had a arrow & ginelli both where not for road but i never got asked about it Thumbs Up
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Keith
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Re: End Cans Reply with quote
dransy wrote:
Just woundering if i get an end can , can i just slip it straight on or will i have to alter jet sizes *Etc?

On stock jetting, you can fit a whole system without needing to play with the carb. They already run quite rich as standard. Just a can will do next to nothing, an Arrow silencer will just make it sound tinnier and a tiny bit louder than standard.

What you want is a JL end can. Cost about £80 from www.cmpracing.co.uk and look/sound fantastic, very nice indeed. A mate of mine had one fitted to his RS which he's now sold, but here's a picture.

https://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3852/clipboard012bj.jpg

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Jack_Cheese
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Jl exhaust systems are made of stainless steel i think - none of the italian mild steel rubbish that rusts through. May be a bit heavier, but is hard as nails in comparison.

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Keith
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jack_Cheese wrote:
The Jl exhaust systems are made of stainless steel i think - none of the italian mild steel rubbish that rusts through. May be a bit heavier, but is hard as nails in comparison.

Apparently, the JL stainless system is the same weight as the mild steel Arrow.

You can also get the JL in mild steel which are meant to be a little bit lighter but as you said, they rust rather quickly in the typical English weather.
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Nolongerhere
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Look into Gianelli system I had one on my TZR and it looked and sounded awesome!
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Jack_Cheese
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Keith"]
Apparently, the JL stainless system is the same weight as the mild steel Arrow.[quote]

That settles it, JL it is lol Thumbs Up

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Lee_367
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 30 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
After having owned both an Arrow and a JL single on an RS125, The JL is better. (The freshly painted arrow rusted within 3 weeks.) Smile
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