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headlamp
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Women Drivers Reply with quote

As some of you already know, my daily journey is 10 miles of commute on one of London's most congested roads. Usually it consists of around 6 to 8 miles of filtering. It's one of the main reasons I wear a high vis jacket, always ride with the dipped headlights on and when filtering flick to full beam. The net effect of this is usually a reasonable proportion of drivers pull over to let me through, I consequently spend most of my filtering either nodding thanks, waving or giving the thumbs up (it's good to do as there is usually a bike that will be following and they will either have a clear run through or drivers will be more 'disposed' to them.

Anyway, in all this I have noticed in all the years of riding that women drivers never pull over, indeed I get the impression that they are totally unaware that a bike is around or indeed there may be other traffic. Clearly theer are plenty of male drivers that act in the same way, but it's usually women drivers I have to squeeze past as their car is postioned just that little out of sync, women drivers never look in their mirrors despite 500 watts of full beam bearing down or a flip of the accelerator.

To balance the argument - certain male car drivers are absolute pigs - generally (note the word generally), Mercedes and BMW drivers - they see you and then try and block your path. Finally anyone using a mobile phone when driving is a total menace as they will 'wiggle' in their lane......

Anyway, just my observation, hopefully lots of you will now tell me that I'm just imagining it & not to be paranoic or sexist?
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Women Drivers Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
women drivers never look in their mirrors despite 500 watts of full beam





I'd look away if you had full beam on Confused
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm, I am a women and drive (car, minibus-taxi) and also ride a bike. My experience is that women dont seem to check their rear mirrors very often or even not at all, so wont even know you are trying to get past them. Dohh. Shocked
Being a biker myself i always make a point of letting other bikers through. And as a professional driver i always check my mirrors Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piccie wrote:
My experience is that women dont seem to check their rear mirrors very often


......except when applying make-up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

its nice to have a woman agree with us about other women.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
its nice to have a woman agree with us about other women.


he he, well, looks like you are right for once Wink
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I also drive a car, one thing that really pisses me off when in traffic is when a bike has its lights on high beam, there's no need for it, I can see normal dipped beam just as well you no 'more' visable than normal, just very annoying!

Would you like it if I came screaming up behind you in my car with full beams on just to let you know I'm there?! Wink

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note that TC mentioned that dipped beam can make it harder to work out how far away a bike is and it's speed, so full beam would be worse I expect.

I think the figures are thatabout 1 in 10 men have a bike licence (even if they don't ride), while about 1 in 100 women do, suggesting that a higher women are likely to be less aware of bikes for a start.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a woman and drive a BMW, it specifically says in the car manual that the mirrors are for show and the outside lane is exclusivly for the use of Beemers Wink
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 01 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kara wrote:
I'm a woman and drive a BMW.............


Oh god, what have you said!

Can someone please ban her! Wink Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate those bloody LED brakelights that twunting boi racers have on their cars that are like epilepsy testing devices...

Was coming home from work the other night and saw a black saxo with them on... Thought the fucking Mothman had landed and proceeded to be basically blind as stevie wonder with forks in his eyes for the rest of my journey behind him Twisted Evil Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Women Drivers Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:

To balance the argument - certain male car drivers are absolute pigs


As in male chauvinist pigs? Who are temporarily blinded Shocked because someone behind them is driving with full beams on? Just out of interest do you ever look in your side mirrors after giving all those thumbs up to see what they are 'signaling' back? I'd be interested to know the male/female ratios for that observation as well if you don't mind. Amazing how some people offer an opinion as an objective fact when all it actually is, is subjective ponderings with a bias created by....boerdom maybe?

headlamp wrote:

it's good to do as there is usually a bike that will be following and they will either have a clear run through or drivers will be more 'disposed' to them.


Not after you've driven by.



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PostPosted: 08:34 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Kara wrote:
I'm a woman and drive a BMW.............


Oh god, what have you said!

Can someone please ban her! Wink Mr. Green


Smile Old BM's are great! It was either a new nissan micra or a 1991 6 cylinder 2 litre BMW.

On the whole I think most people are pretty rubbish at driving, they become complacent and lazy if they drive a lot and don't have any accidents.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kara wrote:
I'm a woman and drive a BMW, it specifically says in the car manual that the mirrors are for show and the outside lane is exclusivly for the use of Beemers Wink


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I drive an old BMW toooooo Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say from my experience it seems a lot of men and women don't quite grasp the reality that they are in sole control of thier car. They think they are just getting a lift whilst giving directions.
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to think I am a good / safe car driver. Is it just me or does anyone else feel like they have far more control on the bike than in the car, its hard to explain, but I can never reach the level of awareness in the car as I do everytime I ride the bike Confused
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Women Drivers Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:

but it's usually women drivers I have to squeeze past as their car is postioned just that little out of sync, women drivers never look in their mirrors despite 500 watts of full beam bearing down or a flip of the accelerator.


if their anything like my mum, yes, most women cant drive (i hate to be sexist or whatever here but they say that a woman driver can crash their car in a car park trying to park, and i know thats bloody true because iv seen it happen twice, and nearly got hit the second time!) Neutral
also i know that some women wont move their car if they see a biker coming up (mabe scared they will hit them?) if their moving then they will move over a bit, if not then tough luck, around here most the bikers iv seen while in my mums car are right ******* mostly doing about 50mph over the speed limit and just scraping the car! Mr. Green
as for the bmw drivers, yes they all do that, i love getting infront of the "smart car convertable drivers" who think their it because they can afford a car thats clearly about 1/4 of the price of a real convertable, and then just annoy the hell out of em, mainly i just go faster and they try to keep up, dont think they expect my bike to be able to do over 40mph though Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Women Drivers Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:
headlamp wrote:

To balance the argument - certain male car drivers are absolute pigs


As in male chauvinist pigs? Who are temporarily blinded Shocked because someone behind them is driving with full beams on? Just out of interest do you ever look in your side mirrors after giving all those thumbs up to see what they are 'signaling' back? I'd be interested to know the male/female ratios for that observation as well if you don't mind. Amazing how some people offer an opinion as an objective fact when all it actually is, is subjective ponderings with a bias created by....boerdom maybe?


No....not chauvinistic. I don't look back as I am filtering & focussing on the gap in front. My best guesstimate for a ratio in terms of women to men checking their mirrors is about 30% - 40% of male drivers do so and 3-5% of women. I can't do better than that, as I don't have a counter attached to my bike. Rolling Eyes

headlamp wrote:

it's good to do as there is usually a bike that will be following and they will either have a clear run through or drivers will be more 'disposed' to them.


Delvard wrote:

Not after you've driven by.



Andy Wink


Well actually yes - most car drivers are fearful of getting blinded by another bike filtering through with even more powerful beams than mine!! Wink Wink
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said it before and i'll say it again, all car drivers should have to do a CBT. Even if they never intend to ride a bike in their life it will make them much better drivers and make them more aware of whats going on around them.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mums a driveing instructor, has IAM and ROSPA tests and is looking into doing a diamond award (needed needed for examiner status) so suffice to say is a good and safe driver.

And on several occasions pointed out that women drivers just aren't (generaly) as good.. (will often complain about bloody woman drivers when one is blithering allong doing something stupid)

The main reason isn't because they are female its because they couldn't give the faintest shit about driveing, they are concerned only with where they are going, what they need to buy from sainsburys, what happened at work e.t.c.

Another thing was an inability to cope with bad situations, like a bus comeing at you...

Do you a. Look for an escape route?
or b. Squeel, close your eyes and drive straight at it?*

Most blokes are paying attention to whats going on (again with exceptions, white van man and sales rep man for example) even nobs in ned mobiles are looking what they are doing most of the time, But there are those who are intentionally twunts and shouldn't be anywhere near a car/van/bus

I'd expect most women on here to be pretty good drivers (rideing bikes as well), you know how dangerous being on the road is and as a result are aware of whats going on!

IMO arrogance and ignorance are the most dangerous things on the road, people pulling out without looking, makeing situations dangerous just because they dont want to be overtaken that sort of thing Sad



(*Has actually happened on a lesson, politely suggested geting a new instructor or never driveing again after haveing to steer them out of the situation, instructing can be a bloody dangerous job...)
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point. A lot of women are simply not interested in driving so don't bother to pay it attention.

My girlfriend is a F'ing nightmare in the car and I don't mind telling her, it might save someones life, maybe even mine.

The other day she did 40mph(in a 30 zone) around a blind bend, one hand hooked over the opposite side of the steering wheel, in the wet, with a bus hanging over into our lane and a car nosing out the T junction on the opposite side of the road and she's looking in the F'ing mirror at someone on the pavement that just past - probably looking at thier handbag!

She missed both the car and bus by inches, and when I caught my breath to scream 'FUCK ME', she turns and vacantly asks me what was wrong. Not a clue.
She's been driving a year and already scraped both sides of her car in the multi storey and gone up the back of someone when they 'suddenly stopped'.
I also saved our arse recently when someone turned accross us at a traffic light junction when they should have stopped. It would have been a head on at 40mph if I hadn't spotted them.
She was blissfully unaware, cruising towards the junction at 40mph without slowing.

If I die on the road I don't want it to be in the passenger seat of a knackered peugot 106.

God help me.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a pick of the only mirror a woman uses whilst driving!!!!

There are exceptions but genreally woman dont notice motorbike until they pass then when they do the winge about them being dangerous!!!!!!!!! Confused
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Women Drivers Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
It's one of the main reasons I wear a high vis jacket, always ride with the dipped headlights on and when filtering flick to full beam.


To be fair, I can't see a thing in my mirrors when I'm filtering ahead of you Wink
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

People joke about women putting on makeup in the rear viev mirror but if you make a note of looking, especially in traffic queues in the morning rush hour you'll see the stereotype is completely true in a lot of cases.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 02 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not even meant to be the rear view mirror that is meant ot be the sun visor mirror but anyway! lol
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