who was wrong in this crash

[kawashima]

As I am doing safety driving/riding committee member(*) in my company, I wanna ask you what was wrong in this movie.

I think foregoing rider was most guilty for not thinking of following rider.

https://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-596.htm


* Every month we gather in a meeting room and judge every
car/bike accident by employees guilty(perpetrator) or not guilty
(victim). All group member of guilty include manager must stand at
entrance gate and apologise to all employee next 1 month
So I will be killed by them if I commit accident myself.

[beast rider]

the following rider was at fault for not observing all aspects before attempting the overtake.

Always look out for yourself, don't assume that cos they got through you will aswell.

[veeeffarr]

[WishayKillie]

Was the bikers fault. He/She shouldn't have tried to overtake at a junction hope they were ok though.
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[Snake Eyes]

I would agree that the following rider should have obviously been more carefull, but on the other hand it didnt look like the car indicated either ! so was also partly to blame
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[Johnny GSX-R]

Its the riders fault.
If you look carefully on the right of the picture as the oofending bike comes up behind the 4x4 you'll see a sign which indicates that the road bends to the left ahead.

Then on the point of contact look at the road markings, the yellow markings continue unbroken around the bend.

Thats why i do my job............it keeps me observant.

[kawashima]

[Jack_Cheese]

the rider we were onboard with was clearly to blame there, overtaking at a t-junction is never a good idea, and it wasnt even a t junction, it was a left hand bend, overtaking there was lunacy. The first rider should have received a good bollocking for his maneouver, but the one we were with was 100% to blame for ramming the lexus.

Jack
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[kawashima]

I felt a hesitation of following rider one moment before passing.
When I ride alone, I can be safe, but I can't be safe enough when I'm doing mass touring.I often think "I must catch up with him" and
be dangerous. I understood the followers mental.

[VFR400UK]

Yes he overtook on a left hand bend, not a masively band thing in this country, but as they are on the wrong side of the road thats like overtaking on a right hand bend in this country...stupid!

The bike in front clearly didnt see that the road turned left and he just darted down the turning and the second bike tried to follow. This is shockingly easy to do, i've done it a couple of times now.

100% the bikers fault, however a suggestion to improve the road layout and signage would be a good idea

[TheShaggyDA]

There is a sign showing a left bend coming up, and there's nowt wrong with the road layout. I'm guessing the first bike assumed the road was a straight one (he was more interested in passing the car) and the second bike was more interested in keeping up with the first (he was more interested in getting good camera footage).

I doubt if either were looking at signs.
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[NSR-Rulez]

Following rider at fault seems to have just followed the lead rider, a junction is up ahead as well, wouldn't overtake there myself personally.
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[feef]

[Teaman]

seen it before,,, riders fault cos hes behind the car, unfortunately as one bike had passed the car, the driver should assume that there might be another passing,,
also the bike ride should assume that the car driver will try and kill him/her then plan action
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[yambabe]

The car is indicating! Look again. Definitely the following rider's fault.
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[feef]

[strag]

I read that blokes post about this on an american forum, no idea what the link is now but: he admitted he was totally at fault as he thought the road went straight on and not into a bend. Also said he didnt see the road signs, all mentioned above but that was from the rider himself.
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[kawashima]

[delboy]

Look at the road markings, it looks to me that the double yellow line is sweeping to the left as does the road at that point. Main road continues left, side road straight on. Tuff call on the overtake though as there were a lot of junctions there.

A bit more caution on the riders point, but it is his/her fault

[GearboxGeezer]

It was the bikers fault, But I bet alot of people have done moves like that just so they can keep up with there buddy..

[kawashima]

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