motorbikes banned!

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[lurker]

gotta laugh at all the nit picking about whether they will whether they won't, which creates more pollution which doesn't....
...the oils gonna run out alot sooner than a bike bans going to get enforced.

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Very unlikely. And there are enough alternatives to just getting oil straight from the ground to make it fairly irrelevant anyway.

All the best

Keith
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My cbr will do about 110-140 on £12.
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[pipnet11]

Took me a while to realise how old this thread was. lol

We could all end up being powered by ethanol or something along those lines. Brazil is already doin ethanol on a large scale from sugar cane.
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[Adam_P]

It won't happen.

Simply because a manufacturer like, hmmmm, let's say, Honda, will turn around to the government and tell them that despite investing heavily in the UK economy by employing many thousands of peopls around the Swidon area. That they'll be closing down said factory and moving production to somewhere esle in the world, for less money.

No British government wants another DeLorean type problem on their roll of honour in the history books.

All the other bike manufacturers employ enough people to make a sizable dent in the UK unemployment figures too, can you see the government closing it down, especially when they could stop the amount of road deaths by puttng up a few more cameras and giving car drivers better standards of driving instruction.

This type of story is the entire reason I have stopped buying MCN. It's utter sensationalist bullshit.
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[killa]

If something should be banned to save a lot of the earths protection, I’d say get rid of motorsport.
Think of all the races not even shown on TV, some utterly pointless, it would take away some people passions but as we know the government don’t care about that.
Think off all the effort involved to crush all the bikes in the world!!! Lol
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[Harold_Shand]

Little bit OT, I know, but... The IAM rag ( Winter edition 2005 ) had a piece about the tories wanting to up road tax for 4x4's to something around the £1000 a year mark and reducing the tax of other classes if they came to power.

Me, I like it.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

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Hi

Don't agree with that. They already pay enough extra fuel duty.

All the best

Keith
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[lilredmachine]

Anyone else notice the idiocy of that carbon emissions advert where they are all 'doing their bit'.

She is walking the kids to school to save the hassle of consuming the middle eastern oil reserves single handedly by taking the Cayenne they own instead.

He is 'doing his bit' by fitting loft insulation to save on his heating energy, unfortunatly he has picked it up in a huge VW Tuareg which in one journey has done more damage to the environment than paying an extra tenner for fuel a year ever could.
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[stryker]

Sorry for my late entry but I just want to say to all those who supported the no smoking ban and pished my comments on give up on one liberty/right and soon they'll ban something you like.....

HA-HA!

...... oh, now to go read the news.
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[Jman]

[stryker]

On thought that pops to mind.... how does the government work out how many car or bike miles are traveled per year? do they account for the fact that many bike riders do many more "pleasure" miles than car drivers I wonder? Do they use MOT records for recorded miles?

Just saying bikers account for 10% of all fatalities means nothing without all the facts.
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Hi

Think is it done from surveys at particular points and extrapolated from there. It has been widely claimed in the past that it is pretty inaccurate for bike miles.

All the best

Keith
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[Jman]

to be totally honest, in my opinion the government won't ever ban motorcycles. emissions is a bigish thing for them now and since motorbikes have much lower emissions than cars and especially 4x4s most government types are pro-motorcycle....
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[Jman]

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Hi

CO2 emissions are not directly harmful (well, certainly not in the small levels from vehicles) but it is currently fashionable to complain about them. Even if you take these as being important then they are pretty much directly related to fuel consumption. Average bike seems to manage about 45mpg with a single person on it, average petrol car does rather better than 30mpg with a bit over 1.5 people in it (on average). Result is cars produce less CO2 per passenger mile.

The ones that are directly harmful to people are particles emissions and carbon monoxide (and a few other nasties such as oxides of sulphur and nitrogen). Bikes are pretty poor for these compared to cars.

Sure small scooters are better on fuel consumption that larger bikes, but most are 2 strokes and really attrocious for emissions. Found some figures a few years back for London which showed that a 50cc 2 stroke produced more exhaust nasties than a bus. Furthermore a bike needs far more oil changes than a car and goes through consumables (such as tyres, filters, etc) far more rapidly.

They want to reduce CO2 emissions from man made sources. Easy way to otherwise remove them would be to shoot most of the population, as only about 3% of all CO2 emissions are from man made sources (and about 20% of that 3% from transport).

Bit of a statistical fiddle (and ignores where the CO2 comes from), but 4 people doing a journey on bicycles actually produce more CO2 through respiration than the same 4 people doing the same journey in a single small car (from respiration and from the exhaust).

All the best

Keith

it is a fiddle because the journey takes longer on a bicycle and so the CO2 from respiration for those in the car is reduced
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[lilredmachine]

Plus the energy and emmissions used and created during the (pedal) bike's manufacture compared to the number of miles it will travel with only one person on board are unfavourable from a green point of view.
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