what advice would you give a car driver

[froggy128]

If a car driver asked what they could start doing to make a bikers life easyer, or problems that they may not know bikers have (indicators arnt self cancelling etc) what would you say

[shaun_04]

buy a bike.


but erm, don't get close to them, realise that they know what they're doing, as often accidents are caused by drivers predicting incorrectly the bikers' movements.

[VFR400UK]

Actually Fucking LOOK before pulling out of a junction would be a start.

That and edging forwards into the road at junctions

[0ddball]

Don't tailgate, thats about the only thing that really winds me up.

Oh, and don't try it on at the traffic light grand prix, you're wasting your time.
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[Barry_M2]

I'd like to see them ride a bike for a week, that will open their eyes a little.

Also, dont f**king panic when you see a bike behind you and swerve out of the way, we are quite capable of riding around you went its safe to do so.

[froggy128]

this is actually for my local sheffield forum where someone has asked for tips to be a better driver

[A J]

I would say that when they turn right that they check their mirrors, even though that you are not suposed to overtake when there are side roads this is the cause of many crashes.

Dont cut corners and look before you change lanes!!

Well that is just a start.

[veeeffarr]

Saw some dappy sow on the way to work with her right hand mirror purposely bent in towards the door (It wasn't broken)

Had a good mind to pull up next to her and straighten it up for her LOL.

[Vespa]

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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

After a verbal altercation and some gesticulation with a car driver after picking up my new bicycle today I've decided not to bother in any way. I've tried talking to friends who drive as well and they just dont get it.

Perhaps riding along behind them performing manouveres such as overtaking etc will help them out better. Just making sure you actually look.

Good luck, you'll need it.
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[Mrs Kickstart]

Hi,

I don't think anything can beat actually seeing it from the other side so I would recommend they do a CBT + training or even a full test.

Failing that remind them that :-

Bikes accelerate quicker that cars

Headlights can affect your speed distance perception

Give them room to filter

To look for bikes filtering

Check the blind spot in the car by using moving head (some people are quite shocked when you demonstrate how a whole car can be in a blind spot.

Regards

Charlotte

[stinkwheel]

I would agree with most of that mainly:

Check your blind spot before pulling into another lane (either on a dual/motorway or to overtake).

Keep driving as you are if a bike is behind you, when it is safe to overtake, they will do so.

During the course of normal riding a bike will move about a lot within the lane and may even appear to go onto the 'wrong' side of the road occasionally. This means you need to use both the rear-view and wing mirrors to see them, an experienced rider will always make sure they are visible in one or the other.

If you are sat at a junction wondering if you can pull out before a bike that is coming along, don't. Chances are that they are travelling at a higher road speed than you, waiting another two seconds wont kill you and will save the biker having to make an uneccessary overtake.

L-plates indicate the rider of the bike has not passed their test and may well be inexperienced on the road. Their vehicle is usually lightweight and slow, this is a legal requirement and they can't help it. Please give them plenty of room to manouver and only overtake them in a place where you would overtake a car, leave plenty of space when you do so by pulling right out into the opposite lane, Even the wind rush off a car can upset their balance. They are one of the most vulnerable road users but have just as much right to be making their journey as everybody else.
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[Marcg868]

All they need to do is just look more, some car drivers are good. But i reckon they should do cbt to really open their eyes as to how difficult and dangerous riding a bike is.
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[Walloper]

Problem: There are too many car drivers.
Solution: Better to address the biker problem.
Think car!
They're mostly OK but it only takes one twat cager (male or female) to arrange a short hospital stay for you or a spell of no bike no fun.
They are out to get us
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[riichy]

[Marcg868]

I may ride a slow skinny 4 stroke 125 (yes, i know u think they're shit) but it still does 70 mph and why do i have to ride at 40 + mph over the speed limit round Manchester just because some cage driving wanker wants too. And traffic light grand prix, what is the point in that? Bury town centre has the best set of lights,

1 set of lights a 100 yard gap to the next and if you time it right you dont have stop, makes me laugh when people go wheel spinning off only to brake suddenly, and then 2 secs late i potter past on me wee cbr 125 you cagers!
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[mistergixer]

As a road user(car, bike, bicycle) i would encourage car drivers to:
Give clear and timely signals.
Make better use of the 'mirror, signal, manoeuvre' advice in the highway code.
To study the highway code thoroughly so that they are familiar with the proper procedure relating to roundabouts, right of way, lane use on dual carriageway/motorway, box junctions etc.
To use a shoulder check before performing any manoeuvre.
To be more aware of their distance, braking and acceleration. To leave plenty of room from the vehicle in front, and to better gauge the speed/distance of other vehicles at junctions, roundabouts etc thus not inconveniencing other road users by pulling out in front of them and ensuring traffic flows smoothly.
To be more aware of the road surface and condition and to drive accordingly, ie damp/icy conditions, camber, elevation etc.
To become more aware of their surroundings, other road users and potential hazards - to 'read the road ahead' instead of reacting under panic conditions.

As a biker i would give them the following advice:
To open up their fucking eyes and look in their fucking mirrors every once in a while, and if they could use their fucking indicators that would be nice, the myopic wankers. And never for a single second imagine that your stupid fucking 1.2 Nova with a bean can exhaust and a wikkid system has any sort of fucking hope against a 600cc sportsbike - so don't even fucking bother you stupid chav cunt. Oh yeah, and all you wankers in your bee-ems and volvos had better not try to block me when i'm filtering or i'll rip your fucking mirrors off, pull you out of the car and kick the shit out of you right there on the roadside you jumped up, small cocked executive cunts.

Thank you, rant ends.
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[Retro-Man]

As a car driver of many years and being relatively new to biking, I have certainly taken a couple of hints from my rider training for use in the car.
The most useful of which as already mentioned is lifesaver checks, which I now do on a regular basis in the car to clear my blind spots.

Cheers
Retro
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[Marcg868]

i think that just about sums it up !
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[annndy]

[jonnay]

DONT turn your hazards on whilst overtaking. All the tourists do it, and speaking to other locals it leaves everyone a bit "wtf" ?

The holiday maker's 2005 fad, dont indicate to overtake, put the hazards on. Yeh, real clever.

Jon
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[BanditsHigh]

My own suggestions for cagers ...

1) Stay off the road

2) Get involved in a multiple pile up (fire optional but recommended)

3) Crash into a tree

4) Sneeze and go under the wheels of a juggernaut.

I could go on ... but then you'd think I had something against cagers

There is absolutely nothing you can do for cagers ... the biggest problem is now the car itself.

They get into their car and immediately switch off, because it does everything for them. It's just another room in their house with all their nice little toys, it's now become somewhere to relax!!!

As someone once said ... remove seat belts and put a big spike in the middle of the steering wheel, then see how they drive.

All the best ... Barry

[kevsterjw]

just think, i really wish they would think before they act and don't end up in situatilons

[paulthewitt]

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