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killa
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Video lame ass Reply with quote

How lame is this!?
I am currently getting together some tunes some locations and riders for a bike video.
It is going to be a mess about vid really, possibly a few cars as I know some people with a few sports.
I have been thinking about what exactly I want in the vid, apart from general chaos I wanted some stunts, not really mad ones like dancing on the tank etc but the normal stoppies etc.
I am a good rider, but just endless street riding can get boring on the video.
I have been trying wheelies, the VFR seems to be kind of weighted in proportion and doesn’t seem to lift so well, if I do mange to I am giving it some heavy heavy throttle, it then drops to the floor, I don’t want to do that too much something will give.
Burn outs cost money, I don’t have enough for a new rear.
And stoppies seems to end up looking like I am crashing.
This is lame, I want to do stunting but I am either too scared to mash the bike or spend loads of cash I don’t have on parts.
Sorry, bit of a rant, no idea what I can do.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Re: Video lame ass Reply with quote

If you want to learn stunts just for a video, I'd suggest you don't Smile.

If you want to learn stunts because you enjoy doing stunts however, wheelies can be done fine on a vfr if you practice your clutching. Stoppies probably need more distance/smoothness and go to your local tyre place and see if they've got any old half worn tyres you can nab for free - though less likely in a 17" size.


In the end, fun costs, generally, you're doing stuff that's more fun and it costs more.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you cant afford a new back tyre what are you gonna do when you drop the bike trying a stoppie or wheelie?
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killa
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know, bit pissed off, I really want to make a video. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest seriously buying a bucket bike for this sorta thing! If you use your main bike, i have NO DOUBT your going to have an off, even if it is a slow one. Do you want to screw your bike? Even if it is just the cosmetics?

I would say get a Moto-x style bike, nice n' light!
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTR SP1 wrote:
If you cant afford a new back tyre what are you gonna do when you drop the bike trying a stoppie or wheelie?

Why would he drop the bike doing a wheelie when he doesn't in normal riding?

In a below balance point wheely a bike's pretty stable, often more so than on two wheels.

Also, as bendy has showed, you don't need amazing footage to make a good video. Well timed editing counts for a lot more Thumbs Up (and this doesn't mean with 20 different wipe effects either.)
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killa
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then, one more thing ...
I have a Sony camera that take video in MPEG, what’s the best thing to use for the editing that doesn’t cost the earth.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This https://www.virtualdub.org/ is pretty good for standard editing. Costs 0 pounds.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
VTR SP1 wrote:
If you cant afford a new back tyre what are you gonna do when you drop the bike trying a stoppie or wheelie?

Why would he drop the bike doing a wheelie when he doesn't in normal riding?


Because pulling a wheelie is a lot different to normal riding and you have a lot less control over the bike with one wheel on the ground than two.

I believe Killa is not a wheelie expert and is learning but I may be wrong. I just think it's not the best thing to do if you have not got the money to fix it if it all goes wrong.

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PostPosted: 14:15 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe he is not a wheelie expert.
I have learnt to do wheelies, although not very well still.
I have crashed doing wheelies.
I know that until you are a fair bit more confident than killa is you are very unlikely to crash doing them.

Infact, I would say you are more likely to crash riding on the road 'normally'. Therefore on this reasoning he should get another tatty bike to ride on the road and use his 'good' bike to do wheelies.

When you become more confident and can hold a wheelie near the balance point it becomes a different matter. However until then you are very unlikely to crash unless you are complete twat because basic human survival reactions take over and mean you put the front wheel down way before you need to, to avoid a crash.

As for the 'lack of control with one wheel on the ground', well, if he's doing it somewhere where there's obstacales in his way, he deserves to crash, otherwise it's not a problem really.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the advice guys, I seriously bring that bike up and then don’t have a clue how to carry it on.
It’s bloody hard, but then I guess there is a lot on my mind stopping me doing it.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
but then I guess there is a lot on my mind stopping me doing it.

If you mean 'survival reactions', fair enough. If you mean you've got other general stuff on ya mind, then stop now.

If you haven't, search through here for wheelie threads. NC30s aint really great bikes for wheelies, but it can be done acceptably clutched in first.
Downgearing definitely helps.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 10 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

best advice i can give is if you really want to learn to stunt, practice on a crosser or a dirt cheap battered old bike with high torque.

also, if your pulling stoppies remember that you WILL drop it, and can you benchpress a VFR? it hurts
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