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greatmoorred
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: if this happens, what do i do. Reply with quote

say im on my test, im turning right out of a side road onto a main road.Some helpful type is turning right from the main road into the side road. Are you still with me ?
He flashes me to indicate that he is going to allow me pull out, but the traffic behind him is squeezing past on his nearside and the traffic coming the opposite direction hasnt noticed he is trying to let me out.
would i be allowed to indicate to him that i want him to carry on and turn as he is supposed to, and stop trying to 'help'.

something similar hapened the last time i was out with my student hi-vis jacket on, but i forgot to ask my instructor about it at the end of the lesson.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a grey area, some instructors say you should stop stalling people and go with his flash.

On the other hand, some say the flash could be misinterpreted by the other party and could lead to an accident, so you should signal that they should go.

Honestly, on a test, I would signal for him to come in, because you have the instructor behind you anyway, and I think you'd get penalised less for not going out when they think you should, than going out when they think you shouldn't.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are supposed to 'make progress when you can'. If the guy is flashing you out AND you can do so without causing another driver to change speed or direction, then go.

If pulling out would make traffic in either direction slow down, stay put. On your test, don't give non-standard hand signals to other drivers.

In the situation you describe, there is traffic moving in both directions. Stay where you are and continue your observations until it is safe to proceed.

You can go if someone is flashing you out but only if you think it is safe to do so and you are sure he has slowed/stopped. You are not supposed to imply anything other than "I am here" from a flash so the indication to continue 'making progress' is the other driver slowing rather than the flash itself.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a person flashing there lights is just to make you aware of their position, not a give way sign Wink not an easy answer
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groovearmada wrote:
a person flashing there lights is just to make you aware of their position, not a give way sign Wink not an easy answer


Yeah, I was told that as well. Apparently it's only over here where people take it to mean they are letting you through!
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. In France, flashed lights mean "I have right of way".
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was me, on my test, i'd wait. There is nothing more likely to mess you up than if your forced to rush a maneuver, esp. if your nervous. Every situation is different though. For example, I had exactly the same thing last week, it was an off camber right turn, I was flashed to come out, the bike was still cold and I stalled, the bike was already leant over commited to the turn, and it fell over. Broken indicator and felt a complete twit picking my bike up, but even as an experienced biker, you still f8ck up from time to time.

It always depends on the situation. At the end of the day, the examiner will want to see that you are confident and capable to be on the road on your own. If you can show this, you'll get away with silly mistakes. If you cause another motorist to take evasive action however, you'll fail.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or to put it another way. Hesitating at a junction is a minor fault. Causing oncoming traffic to brake due to pulling out inappropriately is a fail.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My instructor drummed it into me that you have to be seen to be making process, even when that means filtering on the wrong side of the road Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely a flashing headlight means one thing only - that the bulb is working!!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 16 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Causing oncoming traffic to brake due to pulling out inappropriately is a fail.


Amazing how many car drivers dont realise that fact.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 18 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice, i wouldnt want the instructor to think i was freezing when im really thinking ' just get your car out of the way and i will do my thing when im good and ready, not when you want me to'
it probably wont happen, but random sh1t like that could mean a pass/fail.
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