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Would you pass your practical test again right now?
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Never mind third options, it is a yes no question...pedant.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Would you pass your bike test? Reply with quote

I am referring to people who already have a full licence.

If you were stopped riding your bike on the street and were told you had to re-do your practical bike test right now, do you reckon you'd pass?

This was brought on by someone else saying they didn't reckon their riding was up to test standard any more.

I did my test nine years ago and I reckon I would pass it again no problem. Perhaps with a few minors for taking unexpected lines through corners.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so, but I'd need to swot up on doing all the checks where they want me to, rather than where I like to do them.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likewise with Bendy on where/when for shoulder checks, but don't think it would take me that long to get back into "test mode". When i took my test the first time round, I put myself at 75% on the under-pressure U-turn, so I might fail on that. I still ride in fundamentally the same way I was taught, it's just that with more experience, I spot potential hazards a lot earlier. If anything, I'd say I was more likely to pass my test now than I was when I actually took it.

Think I'd probably struggle more if I had to re-take my car test. Same thing for mirror checks, but also crossing hands on steering wheel, one hand on gear-stick, drink/sandwich on the go etc. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people in cars and on bikes who think they would just pass their tests if they sat them again without any training are incredibly naive.

In the years I passed both of those tests they have changed beyond recognition. Lessons to pass a test are more to do with passing the test than anything else. All of us will have so many bad errors, that we would fail.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did mine a few months ago so reckon i would still remember to do all the required checks.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
I think so, but I'd need to swot up on doing all the checks where they want me to, rather than where I like to do them.


Right turn: Mirror, mirror, headcheck. Indicate right, lifesaver, manouver across road, lifesaver, make turn. Headcheck right, cancel indicator.

Good memory huh?
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Probably not without some lessons.

And the test and training has changed. People do now seem to be taught to pass a test whereas 15+ years ago people tended to be taught to ride a bike in the real world with getting through the test being a secondary issue.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were to ride as i do now, definatly not...and i only passed my test about 12 days ago Laughing !!

i would need to get drummed in to my head again all the mirror checks, life savers and i dont signal all the time Razz and my riding position is always near the middle due to constantly trying to over take Smile
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sloces wrote:
Did mine a few months ago so reckon i would still remember to do all the required checks.


me too ,but theres so much bullshit involved with passing ,you spend more time doing shoulder checks and lifesavers than you do looking where you actually going........now that aint safe Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally think I would, as I am quite a careful rider and have continued ever since I passed to do all the lifesavers and observations and generally I know the road now and don't do silly mistakes like pull out in front of cars I have no chance of making.

I personally don't think I have to many bad habits now either, I no longer tail gate or speed since I had an accident last december.

So in answer to the question, yes. Smile


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PostPosted: 16:36 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I could.

But then, I only did my test two years ago, so things haven't changed that much. And the amount of riding I've donemeans I'm still in the good habits and not too many bad ones.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
whereas 15+ years ago people tended to be taught to ride a bike in the real world


Would this be when they were told by the examiner on foot to ride around the block? Laughing

I really think that I would fail. Not because I am crap, but after doing my advance riding certificate this year, and modifying all manners of riding from safety position to cornering lines, I would not do as the examiner expected to so. As it has been pointed out, the examiner is looking for you to follow a prescribed course of action under particular circumstances, and deviations will be frowned upon.

There is, however, no excuse for failing on something like an e-stop, which we should all be able to do competently, and under pressure, every time we get on a bike.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to think I could.
I only passed my test In Nov of last year...on my CG.

I am now on the FZR600, and a u-turn in a tight road would be a maybe fall-off for me. The nerves would take over..weight of bike...pants Shocked

I still keep up my LS's, my mirror checks, I always turn indys off..

I am sure I have bad habits. I don't indicate off smaller roundabouts when I should, I know that.

I am on the bike every day. My riding has increased with confidence as a result of that.

I reckon a couple of lessons and |I would knock all the bad habits and nerves on the head.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably could, I only took my test about 6 months ago, so i'd like to think i'd still be able too.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

internationalweegie wrote:
Would this be when they were told by the examiner on foot to ride around the block? Laughing


Yep, but back when you had to do a part 1 test (like CBT but more difficult and you could fail it) as well as a part 2 test, and the examinor could sneak around to pick his positions to watch you.

The instructors seemed to be a lot less anal thenabout precisely when you looked over your shoulder, etc, and rather more concerned with the general standard of riding (which I suppose is hard to objectively measure).

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PostPosted: 19:53 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I could yes, however I rarely ride as if im on a test Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno if I'd pass or not. I would like to say yes obviously but if I'm being honest I really don't know.

I think the issue here is whether someone can ride a bike, and whether they can pass a test. In my opinion some things shouldn't even be on the test. When in the real world is anyone going to u-turn an R1?
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the most accurate answer to this question will be Killa's in a few weeks. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
internationalweegie wrote:
Would this be when they were told by the examiner on foot to ride around the block? Laughing


Yep, but back when you had to do a part 1 test (like CBT but more difficult and you could fail it) as well as a part 2 test, and the examinor could sneak around to pick his positions to watch you.


You could fail part 1 but it was unlikely. I think there was about 20 of us in our group and it was a full 2 day course. The brake box was the hardest thing. We all had to practice for a few hours, you had to get it inch perfect.

I failed my first part 2 because I tried to do it without any lessons, but I just didn't know what I was doing. Later I had some lessons and passed it easy. The funny thing about part 2 was you could be doing 70mph around the other side of the block and they wouldn't know. Twisted Evil

I believe that most people on here could pass the old part 2 without much difficulty, it was just about road positions and turning procedures, and a gentle emergency stop. I couldn't, . . I have forgotten all that road position and lifesaver stuff.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only did my DAS back in March so yes, I would hope so. Would have to remember to emphasize those mirror checks though, just for the examiner's benefit Rolling Eyes

I certainly feel like a much better and smoother rider than I was then but also recognise I probably still have much to learn. The only thing I make a point of still practising now and again is the emergency stop; I practice in the dry and wet and from different speeds. Came in handy whilst filtering home from work the other night when some stupid bint pulled out in front of me to change lanes - there wasn't even a gap for her to move into. I'm convinced she thought my emergency stop represented a courteous offer for her to continue her manoeuvre; she just smiled at me and waved her hand by way of gratitude! I tell ya...............
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

definatly not.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I would pass apart from the U turn!
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 02 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of riding ability, I don't think I've really improved a great deal from when I first started riding on the road 7 years ago. However in terms of situational awareness, there has been a tenfold improvement in my ability to recognise and react to the dangers around me.

Whether this would reflect in a riding test, I am not sure. I have a suspicion that I would pass the test, but probably not by much. It's not easy to measure mental abilities like concentration and situational awareness, but in my opinion these are just as important as riding skill, and maybe even more so.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 03 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon I could, but then I only passed just over one year ago.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 03 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

people keep saying they passed a year, 6 months, december etc i passed 2 weeks ago and i know i wont Razz
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