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iCraig
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: What an air filter shouldn't look like. Reply with quote

Well the other day I decided to do a mini service on my bike.

I changed the oil and filter and plugs, and I noticed the plugs were fouled quite badly, so I decided to take a look at the air filter and it looked like this. Embarassed

https://www.gsxf.co.uk/airfilter.JPG

I wondered why the bike spluttered on idling sometimes.

I spose I should check these things more often, and the filter looks as old as the bike. Laughing

I now have a new one in there thanks to David Silver Spares, and it only took one day to get from them! A big thumbs up to them. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before it holed, the blocked air filter would have caused so much restriction that the rings, piston ring grooves and liner would have taken a hammering.
That engine was working as a Vacuum pump.

Then once holed, the unfiltered air could/would have carried dirt/dust etc into the engine which turns to hard carbon grinding polish when caught up in the combustion process.

I hope your engine hasn't sufered tooooo much.

Did you kick your own arse? Laughing Laughing
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iCraig
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Before it holed, the blocked air filter would have caused so much restriction that the rings, piston ring grooves and liner would have taken a hammering.
That engine was working as a Vacuum pump.

Then once holed, the unfiltered air could/would have carried dirt/dust etc into the engine which turns to hard carbon grinding polish when caught up in the combustion process.

I hope your engine hasn't sufered tooooo much.

Did you kick your own arse? Laughing Laughing


It wasn't blocked, its just the fact that the age of it means it turned into powder.

Also in Hondas wisdom they put 2 gauze filters after the filter anyway, so I doubt much if any at all went it to the carbs/engine.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then. That's that I suppose... Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pah, that's nothing.

Here is the one I took out of my (supposedly fully serviced 5,000 miles previously) GPZ500s a couple of months ago:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=23205
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iCraig
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Pah, that's nothing.

Here is the one I took out of my (supposedly fully serviced 5,000 miles previously) GPZ500s a couple of months ago:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=23205


Bloomin' heck mine wasn't that bad then!
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i worry about the condition of things on my bike Smile but jesus how u guys not notice those
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirax wrote:
i worry about the condition of things on my bike Smile but jesus how u guys not notice those


I would have looked at it in another 1,000 miles as per the service schedule. As it was I looked at it then because the bike was running like a bagowank. Nothing to do with the lack of air filter, all to do with a couple of airways in the carbs that were packed with bits of foam.

You have to remove the seat and tank, disconnect the battery, remove the fuse box and undo six screws to get at the air filter on that bike, not something you do routinely.

Moral of the story. When you buy an older second hand bike. Do a full service even if the guy you bought it off says he did it the day before you picked it up.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

never looked at my air filter,,,,,,,it is a zxr400 do you just take the cover off and it slide's out or what Confused
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doh! I wish I'd learnt this sort of stuff while I had my ped. I paid £50 just getting my air filter unblocked twice! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on air filters I've been having real trouble getting hold of an air filter for my mito so been riding a week or so without one in there. Mad The bike mechanic guy said it shouldn't do any harm in the short term (couple of weeks) is this right?
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you're not riding through some proper crap, so stuff is getting lodged up there, it shouldn't present a huge problem. But get it back on ASAP.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't have thought so, it is unlikely that any bits of muck are going to get in through the airbox.

It might make the bike run a bit lean though. I would refrain from thrashing it if you don't have an air filter in place.
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