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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Lights Reply with quote

Am I the only one that is noticing more and more cars that either have no brake lights, or the headlight aim is well out? Or one headlight bulb has blown?

Do people not maintain ther vehicles anymore?
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Re: Lights Reply with quote

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Or one headlight bulb has blown?

Yes, I see a single light coming in the dark and I think 'oooh, another bike, I wonder what it is, another braving the chill' etc., and it turns out to be a car, and I feel let down! Laughing

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sometimes hard to notice if you have a light out in a car, specialy if you drive in a built up area. Also you need someone to go to the back, to check your bulbs.

What I do is weekly, reverse up to the glass at work, thus I can see all my lights in the mirror (ie at night), same for the front.

Stopped someone at a supermarket recently to tell them they had a light out.

(Least they've got 2 lights though, my bike only has 1, thinking of carrying a spare with me at all times).
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't maintain them anymore - can't really blame them, some drivers are totally oblivious to the fact that they're actually driving on a road with other road users on it. I've seen so many cars driving around town recently, gone 5pm, with no lights on what so ever Shocked

How can you even seen your dash without the lights on? I guess the radio still lights up.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

But ot be fair, how easy is it to check if a car brake light is working?

I just assume the lights and that on my bike work so i guess they do too! Razz
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen a lot of cars with one light recently.
Also at this time of year it gets dark about 4pm and it happens so quickly(seems to be in the space of 10mins) that people don't notice thier lights aren't on if they're in town.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So they're incompetent as well?
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see people driving round at 1AM with no lights on at all Shocked.

i can honestly say that one of my rear lights is out, but i can't replace it as blows everytime i switch my lights on.

Car drivers are just ignorant
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the amount of drivers around here without lights on at all, or poorly maintained cars Shocked

discracefull really

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PostPosted: 13:52 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To think, there are sections in the theory and practical tests about this. Maybe people just shouldn't be on the roads if they're not going to make sure they're safe to be there. The most alarmed I have been is when someone had had their brake light lens broken, every time they braked, it looked as though there was an oncoming vehicle 100 yards directly in front of me. Confused

There was also an incident with the man walking towards me on my side of the road with one of those million candle torches. That was a headscrew. Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who drive with their full beam on too.... how can they not know?????

Or people with their rear fog light on, when its not foggy (with no front fogs on). Again, how can they not know its on? Surely a light on the dash is illuminated when this is activated? Confused
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyC wrote:
People who drive with their full beam on too.... how can they not know?????

Or people with their rear fog light on, when its not foggy (with no front fogs on). Again, how can they not know its on? Surely a light on the dash is illuminated when this is activated? Confused


Oh, they know it's on, they just don't consider the fact that it is so bright that it might actually inconvenience other road users. Cacooned in their little steel boxes, I imagine it's very easy to forget about and ignore everyone else all together, just so long as they don't hit anyone/ thing.

Edit: or they know that it is inconveniencing other road users and then they are just cunts. Mad
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure it's an offence to use rear fogs at night especially if it isn't even foggy.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To play devils advocate for a minute, they don't make it easy for you to maintain your own car. Everything is so complex, requiring special tools and electronic gizmos that a lot of people, understandably, don't even attempt home maintainance. Hell, on an A class Mercedes, you can't even pop the bonnet without a special tool.

On my last car, you had to dismantle half the front end to change a headlight bulb (you had to remove the radiator grille amongst other things). To do that you needed an unusually long screwdriver and a very stubby socket set. It took about half an hour to do so I can understand why people don't bother.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny we were discussing this in my mates car a couple hours ago. The amount around with blown bulbs is ridiculous.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have driven around a couple of times with my head light off on my bike. I was in town so didn't really notice and I only noticed when people started beeping at me. It's hard with a 125 as the head light isn't very bright. Am thinking of taping the switch to on as it is easily knocked off.
The thing with car drivers is the think they are imortal in their little tin box that they don't care about maintenance as much at motorcyclists.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
To play devils advocate for a minute, they don't make it easy for you to maintain your own car. Everything is so complex, requiring special tools and electronic gizmos that a lot of people, understandably, don't even attempt home maintainance. Hell, on an A class Mercedes, you can't even pop the bonnet without a special tool.

On my last car, you had to dismantle half the front end to change a headlight bulb (you had to remove the radiator grille amongst other things). To do that you needed an unusually long screwdriver and a very stubby socket set. It took about half an hour to do so I can understand why people don't bother.


You didn't happen to own a mark 2 Mondeo did you?

The Passenger side light is a night mare, its a star screw thread, you have to remove the front grille, then remove the entire light unit. Its incredibly stupid and I hate ford for doing it. It just forces the majority to go to a garage.

How many women drivers/suits would have a star screw set. I mean, its bo**xs.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its incredibly stupid and I hate ford for doing it. It just forces the majority to go to a garage.


That I believe is the point. Neutral It's not stupid in the slightest from the point of view of the design engineer (assuming his job is to make Ford money), it gets Ford and servicing centres more money and to some degree it stops the uneducated from breaking their vehicles by trying to carry out repairs they aren't capable of.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 16 Dec 2005    Post subject: . Reply with quote

I pulled alongside another biker earlier in the week to let him know that his back light had blown.

I've had my back light blow mid-journey this winter myself.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what i like about my Gixxer.

It's got 20 individual LED's so if one blows, i still got 19 working ones. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondeokid wrote:


You didn't happen to own a mark 2 Mondeo did you?


Indeed it was. It also had odd single filament bulbs that blew on piece. This is why you will see a lot of Mondeos with only one light on. It was highly annoying.

In fact it was a spectacularly shit car altogether. Used to go through wheel bearings like they were sweeties and had virtually no headroom. Tracking used to get knocked out at the slightest thing too.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 17 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 10 minute bus ride through the centre of town on a double decker bus to get to school in the morning. My friends wonder why i constantly hit the roof when i see people with NO BRAKE LIGHTS AT ALL. Yesterday on my way to the bus stop there was a woman reversing out of her driveway, and she didnt have any reversing lights! (and no she wasnt free wheeling). I dunno, but things like that really get on my tits.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am forever behind vehicles with a brake light out, the other day whilst I was out delivering at work I followed a young girl in ford and both of her rear brake lights were out, very dangerous so when we came to traffic lights I actually got out and informed her incase she didnt know Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the cars i mot have lights out, usually sidelights or dipped beam lights. The most common failure is headlamp aim and brake lights i would think, headlamp aim being out of alignment IS usually caused by the owner fitting their own h7 bulbs.
H7 bulbs are fitted to the majority of cars nowadays (that dont have hid lights), they only sit in one way because they have a little lug on them. But you can get them sort of in and the spring closed when they are upside down, so people put them in and think they have saved 10 quid by fitting them theirselves when in actual fact they are blinding every mofo on the road. Mad Personal pet hate as you can tell lol. Mr. Green Reversing lights are not part of the mot so alot of people can get away with not having them. Although if spotted while mot'ing it would normally be an advise. Brake lights stuck on can also be annoying, i usually see it on rover mgf's.

Another thing that gets on my wick is people who drive around at night with their sidelights on and their front fogs on... i mean duh do they not realise that they have dipped beams and that to have front fogs on when its not foggy (100m vis or less) is illegal. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 18 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drummer wrote:
i i can honestly say that one of my rear lights is out, but i can't replace it as blows everytime i switch my lights on.

Car drivers are just ignorant


So the car drivers are ignorant, but its fine for you to ride around knowing you have a light out because you don't want to get it fixed?


It is very annoying seeing other vehicles with lights out, but not as bad as driving around with the fogs on. That said, in my current courtesy car there's no warning light on the dash to tell you the fogs are on, just a very dull light on the fog lamp switch. Easily unnoticed.
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