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Delvard
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Is it Inevitable That I'm Going To Have An 'Off' ? Reply with quote

I passed my car test when I was 17. I'm 39 now owned all kinds of cars and I've never had an accident. Been close no doubt but never been involved in any kind of collison or any kind of RTA.
I passed my DAS test in November. Since then, nearly, not all, but nearly everyone has asked me:
Have you come off it yet?
It unnerves me. Nobody ever asked me this when I passed my car test. I set off for the gym this morning at 8am and the ice covered the cul-de-sac I live in. Thought about it for a moment and set off (carefully) didn't have a problem. Came back after workout ice was still there drove over it, parked up on the drive went in and the missus asked:
Weren't you worried about coming off?
Sad I replied yeah but I went slowly and it was fine. "Be careful" came the reply. Sad
Why do people assume that you ARE going to come off? Why should I have too? Can't I progress and become a good rider with ability WITHOUT coming off? Are stitches and broken bones a requisite?
I'm starting to think I'll be glad when I DO come off AND survive it Shocked Mr. Green oh and maybe this emoticon will be involved too Karma I try and lead a good life Mr. Green



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PostPosted: 17:52 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can become a good rider without coming off, it just depends about your attitude to riding
i.e what risks you take and where and when you do them
i have come off 4 times and never done and serious damage, the main one i had a whiplash style injury but that was nothing seeing as i was sliding down the tarmac at 120 mph. but this was on a track with nothing to hit
i figure that i haven't hurt myself really badly as on the road i am a fairly safe rider but on the track i like to push it (and get it wrong)
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Edit: people always ask as there is the stereotype of bike. you crash/come off and die! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably will come off at some point.

It's the unfortunate side of biking. Mistakes in a car can have very little consequence, whereas on a bike a small mistake can have you sliding down the road.

Just make sure you wear full protective gear so if it does happen you've done all you can to protect yourself.

Hopefully you will have years of crash-free biking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a guy who went 86 years without crashing apparently Razz
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type_Mo wrote:
There was a guy who went 86 years without crashing apparently Razz


BIKE this month has an article on a guy that has never crashed in 52 years (30 years of riding time)
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say 'Every biker has a big crash in them. It's whether they get back on or not that determines whether they are a biker or not.'

I had a big 'off' but got back on. However, i cant afford to run a bike due to the money i had to pay to get back to where i was.

Sodding arse! If i dont get a payout, i'll murder this guy. Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little mistakes in the car go un-noticed, but on the bike they can become a major problem.

Like clipping the curb for example.

There are a lot more things likely to cause you problems than if on 4 wheels.

That said, your road sense should be good from your driving experience.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
You probably will come off at some point.

Hopefully you will have years of crash-free biking Thumbs Up


I agree! My own stupid mistake was not paying attention to the traffic stopping quickly and grabbed a handfull of front brake - went tumbling down the road and ended up with a frozen shoulder that will never have the same freedom of movement again. Painful lesson learnt Wink

Shiny side up fella!

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PostPosted: 18:52 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: Is it Inevitable That I'm Going To Have An 'Off' ? Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:
Why do people assume that you ARE going to come off? Why should I have too? Can't I progress and become a good rider with ability WITHOUT coming off? Are stitches and broken bones a requisite?
I'm starting to think I'll be glad when I DO come off AND survive it Shocked Mr. Green oh and maybe this emoticon will be involved too Karma I try and lead a good life Mr. Green


I guess the statistics say you are going to either crash (or at least drop the bike whilst it's stationary) at some point. When I first started driving they said the average car driver had 3 crashes in their driving lifetime - but it's all just averages. I've had more than 3 crashes in the car already. Fortunately none of them were at all serious, and none of them were my fault either (although one counted as a fault for insurance purposes because I couldn't trace and sue the owner of the dog that caused it).

There will be people who have less than the average number of offs (and some who have none). Given that you didn't start till later in life, you'll have less chance of crashing than someone who rides from 16-70.

Your riding technique is going to have a big effect and the protective gear you chose to wear may reduce the consequences but there's always someone ready to pull/step out in front of you where you have absolutely no opportunity to do anything about it or even to have avoided it in the first place (unless you didn't ride at all) so I suppose "Will I definately have to have an off" is going to come down to "Do you feel lucky, punk"?
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like most bikers have a small (fairly inconsequential) crash at some point.

Bikes are obviouslly a lot easier to crash than cars. Personally Ive had two bike crashes, and I have no lasting injuries.

If you dont get carried away, and you are careful and learn lessons as you go, then I suppose its entirely possible that you wont ever come off your bike.

Most bikers do though, at some point; Its easily done, and usually not important.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
and usually not important.


have to disagree with that, its very important to know why you have come off as you leatn what you did wrong and not to do that again in simular situations
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: Is it Inevitable That I'm Going To Have An 'Off' ? Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:

Why do people assume that you ARE going to come off? Why should I have too? Can't I progress and become a good rider with ability WITHOUT coming off? Are stitches and broken bones a requisite?

A significant proportion of bike riders do crash, so it's understandable that people group you in with these.

As far as progressing, it depends how you want to progress as a rider and the reasons why you ride bikes.
A lot of people are into bikes for speed and performance - for many these means pushing limits of the bikes, while for others it may be going fast and not realising the limits. Either situation is likely to lead in people crashing.

'Good' for one person may be being able to wheely through the gears to sixth, while for another it may be holding a tyre on the limit of traction, or of course riding in safe manner that sees you not crashing or putting yourself in dangerous situations.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good rider isnt always a fast one. Karma
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming off is not a prerequsite to becoming a good biker, depending on your mentality and reasons for using a motorcycle. However, pain is one hell of a teacher!
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PostPosted: 06:13 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading about this yesterday in this months "Bike" mag. You can be the best rider in the world but still fall off, nothing to be ashamed of, embarrassing yes and I just hope it never happens to me but OH tells me it probably will one day, the article is well worth a read. One poor chap was stuck underneath his bike for 15 minutes before a couple of blokes came along and lifted it off of him, omg Confused
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst is when you come off and spectators laugh at what they see as a hilarious stunt. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: Is it Inevitable That I'm Going To Have An 'Off' ? Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:
Weren't you worried about coming off?
Sad I replied yeah but I went slowly and it was fine. "Be careful" came the reply. Sad
Why do people assume that you ARE going to come off? Why should I have too? Can't I progress and become a good rider with ability WITHOUT coming off? Are stitches and broken bones a requisite?
I'm starting to think I'll be glad when I DO come off AND survive it Shocked Mr. Green oh and maybe this emoticon will be involved too Karma I try and lead a good life Mr. Green



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I no what you mean. Before I go out on my bike my girlfriend always gets worried and gives me a lecture on speeding so when i finaly get going I feel alot of pressure to not crash and im all tense! The one time she said, 'have a nice ride' I felt relaxed and rode well. I think you need to have a positive attitude and be in the right frame of mind to ride well.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the great replies. I'm having some Metzler Z6 tyres fitted to the bike this afternoon as both tyres on the bike are pretty shagged now. I just know the fella fitting them will tell me to be careful whilst I scrub them in Mr. Green I don't resent the kind thoughts or anything but yeah I do feel an arc of tension in my back when I'm told Wink



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PostPosted: 13:57 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My view of it is exactly the same as mountain bikes. If I were to ride down normal roads at normal speeds etc I would probably never have an accident (as long as old/chavvy people stay out my way). However, I like going quickly, especially on mountain bikes. So inevitably I am going to crash when I am trying to do something faster, larger, more dangerous than I have before. All comes down to how much risk you want to take with yourself.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been thinking the same recently, I have been riding for almost 2 years now without so much as a scratch, and reading the forum that seems to be somehow unusual in the bike world.
Im not saying im a fantastic rider, as I am a thoroughbred commuter biker and rather cautious generally.

I think that one reason is that it is possible for someone who has never driven/ridden before to take a 1 or 2 week course and find themselves fully licensed to ride a seriously fast piece of machinery. I only learnt to ride a bike after driving for 5 years, it would be interesting to compare accident rates between bikers who only ride bikes, and those who drive cars and have moved into bikes at a later point.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been thinking the same recently, I have been riding for almost 2 years now without so much as a scratch, and reading the forum that seems to be somehow unusual in the bike world.
Im not saying im a fantastic rider, as I am a thoroughbred commuter biker and rather cautious generally.

I think that one reason is that it is possible for someone who has never driven/ridden before to take a 1 or 2 week course and find themselves fully licensed to ride a seriously fast piece of machinery. I only learnt to ride a bike after driving for 5 years, it would be interesting to compare accident rates between bikers who only ride bikes, and those who drive cars and have moved into bikes at a later point.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time I have "come off" was one day in the ice making a 10mph turn into a driveway, the front came down and it landed on the clutch, so I just had to let the cluch out and away I went. Laughing Touch wood I've never had a serious accident though.
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