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ISLAND GIRL
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: What is the restriction bhp Reply with quote

Right,since I am a newly passed rider and female am not sure bout these things so here goes....
Am picking up my 600 this wk end but have to have it restricted. Firstly what is my 600 hornet bhp before restriction and then after it has been done??
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after it is 33BHP.....

Probably about 90 - 95 before...
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did,nt you do your DAS, if so you don,t need to have a 33bhp bike.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, they say the hornet has about 92bhp but more like 85 really.

After restriction, you're looking at spot on 33.0. I put my restricted er5 on the dyno and it came out as 32.9 and 33.1bhp on the two runs.

Not going to get much more than 100 really.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Tatters, I did not do DAS, could not afford it for a start and not bothered about getting a huge great monster to ride on. Topping 80 - 90 mph is ample enough for me here on the Island and will stop me from killing myself,will give me a chance to gain experience, in two yrs it can come off and, it dont bother me, must be a man thing. Thanks guys, I love this site, if I want to find something out I can rely on you here to get me a quick reply :mrgreen : Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 600 bandit is 33bhp and its faster enough 4 now? untill the 2 years run out
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
Not going to get much more than 100 really.


And the limit is ......70

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PostPosted: 21:29 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The legal limit is 25kW, which is about 33.8hp.

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PostPosted: 21:32 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,ok,so what does it all mean then, I know it stands for break horse power but what does it mean exactly,what does the bhp do exactly, sorry girl questions I know but hey, I am learning Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the max engine power that u can ride by law is 33bhp like me,you will need to take it to local dealer to restrict it and get a certifcate for the insurance
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive had nearly 100mph and it had a bit more to go, not 70mph monokid
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, aren't you over 21?

If so, did you Direct Access (DAS), if not, why not Confused.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats not an easy question to answer.

BHP is an imperial measurement of power. Kw is metric.

33bhp is about what a honda 400 bros makes as standard, or a derestricted RS125.

Your bike makes about three times that power.

Torque is a measurement of turning force produced by the crankshaft of the engine. Power is how quickly the engine can produce the torque.

Quite roughly power = torque x revs.

So a lower revving bike makes less power than the same bike which revs higher. Similarly a larger capacity bike that revs the same as a smaller capacity bike will make more torque therefore more power.

TBH you don't really need to know this to ride the bike, but it helps to know the law concerning bikes to be able to legally ride them.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

g, who?
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
power = (torque x revs)/5252


Sorry, I had to. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay, thats a pretty impressive reply, thank you. Will have to read that over and over for my brain to understand it all Laughing
I did not choose to do DAS mainly down to the expense of it and I am not interested in going out to get on a huge bike and seeing how fast I can go.
My bike will be ready Saturday, all restricted too for me, I would not even think about breaking any laws by say not having it done, the insurance require a copy of the certificate too, I have already spoken to them.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 09 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISLAND GIRL wrote:
Ok,ok,so what does it all mean then, I know it stands for break horse power but what does it mean exactly


You know, thats a very good question that I for one have often wondered.... what exactly is 1 hp? A typically racing horse can easily go 40mph, a small handy pony couldn't but it could do 20mph all day long. Yet a typical 125 4t with 10hp can only just manage 60. Does it really take 9 extra horses to do that extra 20mph? Is it a measure of a horse's speed, a horse's shear pulling power or perhaps endurance with a load over time? And if so what breed and size of horse as there surely has to be a constant somewhere. Anyone able to enlighten me?
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISLAND GIRL wrote:

I did not choose to do DAS mainly down to the expense of it and I am not interested in going out to get on a huge bike and seeing how fast I can go.

I so far can only think of one person who's not done DAS when they had the option, then not regretted it. And that was a cruiser rider - not like most cruisers make much over, if at all, the hp/kg limit.

Extra cost is pretty similar or less than the cost of restrictors usually.

Bit late now, though, sure you'll have fun whatever Smile.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
ISLAND GIRL wrote:
Ok,ok,so what does it all mean then, I know it stands for break horse power but what does it mean exactly

You know, thats a very good question that I for one have often wondered.... what exactly is 1 hp?

"The horsepower was first used by James Watt during a business venture where his steam engines replaced horses. It was defined that a horse can lift 33,000 pounds force with a speed of 1 foot per minute: 33,000 ft·lbf·min-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_horsepower#Horsepower_.28hp.29
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember, the HP restriction won't only limit your top end, as you've mentioned you're not worried about, but also your acceleration.

It may be illegal, but you'd have to be unlucky to be caught without the restrictors, if you have the documentation. So in your situation, you can take them out if and when you want to really.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be fine G, really, I do not regret not doing the DAS, its down to personnal choice, had I been male then yes maybe I would regret it but like I said I am not interested in seeing how fast I can go, I intend to go careful until 100% confident with the bike.
And like Rookie says, those restrictors can come off before the two yrs is up if I am prepared to take that chance of not being stopped.
Chap at where I am getting mine from said most guys that have restriction fitted soon take them off Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISLAND GIRL wrote:
I'll be fine G, really, I do not regret not doing the DAS, its down to personnal choice, had I been male then yes maybe I would regret it but like I said I am not interested in seeing how fast I can go, I intend to go careful until 100% confident with the bike.

Come back in a year and eleven months, say that and I'll accept your answer. As others have said, it's not so much about going fast but about making the most of the bike you have paid for, while at the moment it's not going to offer much in terms of acceleration over some 125s.
Of course if you're not prepared to intenionally break the law as well, then you're less likely to try someone else's bike and realise what you're missing.

On my first bike I started out with similar good intentions, they didn't last.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OH has said after a few months of getting to know mine I can try his 650 out but I doubt I will be doing that since its so damm heavy what with being a sports tourer.
If I give in to taking the kit off earlier than I should I will certainly put my hands up Mr. Green
All the same its got to be better and have more power than my CG125 for sure, if anything I feel that I am being cautious and sensible.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
power = (torque x revs)/5252


No you didn't have to. That expression above means absolutely nothing without units. Is it Torque in Elephant Metres? is it power in Kettle Hours?

Hence the phrase "Very roughly"! Wink
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually going to ask what units the equation was in, otherwise it's useless.
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