Woot! Ciggy Lighter Fitted!

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Right

Following on from my thread yesterday that i deleted, i went down to halfrauds and invested in a £5 3 into 1 ciggy lighter for a car.

Brought it home and snipped off the end (The plug).

Split the two wires, as they come glued together.

Connected the earth wire to the battery negative terminal (Using those circular terminal connectors)

Then wired up the live to my ignition wire.

This now means that the cig lighter is only on when the ignition is on, and that if anything goes wrong i can simply hit the ignition off to kill it.

I also fitted an inline fuse of 30amps (might knock it down to a 20 amp though).

Voila, mounted it under my seat, and im good to go

1 Port is allready being used, i got me a small ciggarette lighter powered green accent light, that is now lighting up my clock on the dash for night time use

Now i can run say, Phone charger on it, or i can plug in a portable pump for airbeds when i go camping, or maybe, just maybe, even a ciggarette lighter?



Pics:

Crap picture, but you get the idea... this is the LED glowing over my clock

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/dvc00381.jpg


Up CLose

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/dvc00377.jpg


Fitted under the seat, ignition on, so the LED Glow of the ports themselves is visible slightly

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/dvc00378.jpg
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[phill.c]

not a bad idea, good if you go on trips all the time. your bike need a fookin good clean tho
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[Suzuki]

That's a very cool idea. Would be handy to have for charging phones/cameras/etc when camping.

Nice one!
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[Bod]

Me and a mate are off for a europe trip, needed sommat to charge my pda while travelling.. You have saved me some searching cheers.

[mr.z]

30 amps is defenately too high, anything over 15 is asking for truoble and fryed wires.. (check your fusebox, if the highest fuse is 10 then thats what you should be useing!, presonally i'd be useing 10amp)

Mobiles and small electronics will be totaly fine air bed pump would be ok too, just be carefull not to overload it (hairdryers, hoovers e.t.c....)

Just be carefull what your pluging in ideally you should be runing this lot off a relay, ignition wire is the switch, power is off the battery, dead easy to fit, get them from a car breakers..


Personally i got one of these, not often i've needed one, its powered an inverter which ran a laptop for a fair bit of time with no probs..
https://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/switch-3/Images/GroupImage20.GIF
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[TOM M]

A really good idea that
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[stinkwheel]

I have to agree with mr.z. You should really use a relay with that, use the ignition wiring as a 'switching' current. I usually take a switching current off the feed to one of the brake light switches.

With a relay, the load carrying wiring is dedicated to that socket only and not connected to any of the other systems on the bike.

Some of the devices you could put in a cigarette lighter socket are very high draw and would pop your main fuse the way you have it leaving you unable to ride the bike. A good example of one of these high draw devices is a cigarette lighter.
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[R4nger]

I can not believe that so many people have not thought of this. You should all be shot for stupidity.

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[mr.z]

[Method]

Yeah i was thiking about a relay, but then it occured to me that i dont actually know how i woud connect one up / how it would work etc... care to explain?

On a side note, just thinking of switching it around, so the live is straght from the battery - then the fuse, then the cig lighter ports, but then where woud i put the earth for a switch? I couldnt connect the earth to the ignition wire because it needs an earth, not a live
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[mchaggis]

Stinkwheel wrote a good guide for them here:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=44421
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[stinkwheel]

I forgot I had done that

You want a single throw relay and wire it up like this (substitute 'lighter socket' for GPS).

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/gpswire.jpg

Now the cigarette lighter socket is sorted, when can we expect to see the ashtray?
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[doggone]

Most ATVs have this as standard so it obviously isn't a problem.
They should all have it, at least on faired bikes it would be easy to tuck in there somewhere!

[Knowlsey]

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[Lee_367]

Could definitely do with a relay, most cigarette lighters are only fused at 10amps as they only use 1mm^2 wire which is suitable for around 13 amps.
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[binge]

I would Most defonatly use a Relay in that setup because if you do burn the ignition wire out from overload, Then you arent going to beable to start the bike either!


Its easy as to fit a relay to what you have like.

The current live you are using now, Disconnect it from the Ciggy ligher thing, and wire it onto the Switching side of the relay (the Terminal with the LOWER number on it)

Then from the opposite terminal to the (the other low number), Simply earth it.


The for the power, Run a fresh live from battery to the Relay (Terminal with the Higher number on it), Then from the opposite terminal to that, Run it to the Ciggy ligher.

Hey presto, You have already wired the rest up anyway.


This way, it will still come on with the ignition, but its running a Much higher load taking loom, so you wont run the risk of burning somthing out.



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[8Ball]

I'm a complete electrical and mechanical gimp so I wouldn't want to start mucking about with the ignition or any other wires on the bike.

Could the socket be wired to the battery direct with an inline fuse and not cause problems? I realise this means it would run when the ignition is not switched on, but I'd just be careful.

Thanks
8Ball

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[8Ball]

Surely though unplugging whatever is in there when the bike is turned off will stop the battery discharging. That or you could put a little inline switch in there.

[riichy]

good ider if you smoke

wonder if they will start putting them as standard on some bikes
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