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MikeH
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 11 Jan 2006    Post subject: Which OIL ? Reply with quote

KLE book say's 10w40 but what is best and can I use any 10w40 or is it specific to bikes with them having a wet clutch ?

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PostPosted: 20:37 - 11 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castrol GPS 10-40w Semi-Synth, and you won't go wrong! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 11 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what i thought till my old viffer started making unpleasant clicking noises! Shocked

Had to get something a bit thicker before it would stop...

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PostPosted: 20:56 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

vauxhalls 10 40 semi ,in a silver gallon tub, it does not have the antislip additives and i know a few bike repair shops that use that coz its good and cheaper than bike oil
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

most 10w40 oil will be ok......just as the people you buy it from Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:59 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

riichy wrote:
most 10w40 oil will be ok......just as the people you buy it from Thumbs Up


Not for wet clutches they wont be, the clutch plates will not engage with most addatives added to oils, bike oils are fine only a few car oils are ok
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PostPosted: 05:25 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

10w 40 available from Rock-oil , Valvoline , putoline , castrol and various other's , use a bike oil .. just one less problem what could occur for the sake of a few pennys. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I think that Castrol GTX (make sure it isn't Magnatech) would do quite adequately. The KLE is hardly a high performance machine. That is unless you really do want "the best", in which case you'll pay through your nose for something which doesn't actually bring any further benefits.
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using Motul 300V Competition for a while, seems to be pretty smooth. Its about £38 for 4 litres, I think thats about the same as the other brands like Castrol. You can get it in Hein Gericke shops.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

curryfishball wrote:
I've been using Motul 300V Competition for a while, seems to be pretty smooth. Its about £38 for 4 litres,




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PostPosted: 11:50 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knowlsey wrote:
Not for wet clutches they wont be, the clutch plates will not engage with most addatives added to oils, bike oils are fine only a few car oils are ok


In my experience most car oils ae fine. Those that cause problems are not that common and will only be those for the latest API specs.

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PostPosted: 13:35 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

...so buy from a dealer, Hein Gericke, or Halfords etc???
(I'm new to biking and don't mind paying the going rate for consumables, but also don't want to get ripped off by unneccesarily high prices).
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only seen the Motul 300V in Hein Gericke, Halfords only stock Castrol I think. But the two brands are quite closely priced anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put castrol GTX or bog standard Motoul (from HG) oil in it. They are cost effective and work. Not sure if they are still doing it but HG were doing a free oil filter with every 5l bottle of motoul oil you buy at one point.

You need to remember that the engine in that bike was first made in the early 1980s (EN450 ltd). There was no such thing as synthetic motorbike specific oil about then (not on common sale anyway and they were nasty), duckhams 10-40 mineral oil was the 'sexy' oil to put in your bike.

The kawasaki handbook requires 10w-40 API SE, SF or SG or API SH or SJ with JASO MA. Castrol GTX fulfils this requirement perfectly well. In out climate you will be fine with 20w-50 oil too. It makes no mention of using 'motorbike specific' oils. I am also perfectly confident to recommend it as I put 50,000 (hard) miles on a GPZ500s using GTX.

The important thing is that you change it every 3,000 miles. You are supposed to change the filter every other oil change. I just do it every time for all they cost.

That bike has a BIG sump in it (3.8 litres with the filter change) so the oil isn't put under a huge amount of stress.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

curryfishball wrote:
I've only seen the Motul 300V in Hein Gericke, Halfords only stock Castrol I think. But the two brands are quite closely priced anyway.

To be fair, you're paying nearly 10 quid a litre for your oil so I do not think he should be taking advice from you about where to get a good deal Razz

Just go to Halfords. They are big so they should be cheap.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

HALFRAUDS ?? cheap, nooooo never use 'em, robbing gits

In the end I've used Morris's (Local Shrewsbury Company) 10w40 semi-synth Motorcycle oil and it's solved my knotchy gear change in the lower gears and at £15 from my local bike dealer for 4L it's not bad money either defo recommend it Thumbs Up

Cheers for the feedback fellas Karma
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 28 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was having a look through the Clymer manual for my VT today. Apparently at 6000 rpm, the oil pump shifts 24 litres each minute! That means the 3 litres of oil in the sump get pumped round the engine 8 times every minute! Shocked The engine does go through 6000 revolutions in the same time, so no doubt it needs it.

Obviously all oil does not take the same time to travel to places and back to the sump, so some oil is circulating even faster. Mind you, it'll all get mixed up pretty thoroughly by the crankshaft flying through it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 29 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nath wrote:


Just go to Halfords. They are big so they should be cheap.


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