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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Anyone else had this problem? Reply with quote

Whenever I ride for more than 10-15 minutes, my hands really start to ache

This morning it was getting really uncomfortable, you can move the left hand easy enough and as often as you like, the right a little harder Confused

Its the same whether wearing sports or winter gloves.

I have tried changing hand positions, gripping the bars differently, still the same Sad

Could it be due to the vibration of a stiff suspension, shitty road surfaces and nerves?

I would love t go on ride outs, but my hands are killing me Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are probably just gripping the bars too tightly , just relax your grip
a bit .
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree your griping the bars to tight or more likely leaning on them.


I know when I am physically tired and commuting instead of using my thighs and stomach mussels to keep my position when breaking I will “lean” on the bars more and if I end up having to break a lot my hands will start to get sore rather quick.


My suggestion is two fold

First check the bike is set up as well as it can be fore your size. This will make a huge difference.

But secondly and most importantly when braking grip the tank with your legs and use your stomach mussels to hold your position. Not only will this give you more control when braking you will also find your hands will not get so sore.



One last thing try to get out of the habit of leaning on the bars as you go along. Again use your legs and stomach mussels to hold yourself in place. After a little while you will find your self do all this automatically and will find you’re riding much more comfortable.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go faster, I have found the same of my throttle hand when I'm stuck pootling about in 30s. Once I'm doing over 40-50 or so the pain disappears as the wind blast takes some of the weight from my hands. Then after a couple of hours (at motorway speeds) my back starts to ache a bit and the seat becomes decidedly less plush as my arse gets numb. Laughing

Time to take a break at that point and move around some more I'd say. I'd admit to gripping the throttle harder in 30's too though, I suppose it's something to do with having to be that much more alert, it tends to make me tense. Neutral
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some grips are quite 'thin' .
You can put foam covers over them which make them wider and softer so you're cushioning any vibration - look a bit naff.

You're probably 'gripping' when you only need to rest your hands on the bar really.
Not easy in traffic but try to just relax everything, it's the tension in muscles which does you, in neck/shoulders/arm as well as hands.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of things:

Make sure the span-adjusters on the clutch and brake levers are set at a comfortable level.

Try altering the angle the clip-ons sit at, you may find that rotating them out the way puts less strain on your hand muscles, giving a more 'natural' hand position. I hate clip-ons, I like the bars to fall flat against my palms in a neutral position as I reach forwards for them, that is why my sports bike has drag-bars fitted.

From your lever position, it also looks like you are sitting right over the top of the bars and taking a lot of weight on the heel of your hands as a result. Sitting further back on the bike so you take more weight on your backside might help. The levers look like they are rotated unusually far forwards, almost sitting directly underneath the bars, I can't see how this can be comfortable, I would rotate them back towards you a bit.

Another thing that could be a factor is vibration, high frequency vibrations transmitting through the bars can very quickly make your hands numb. In this case try fitting some heavier bar-end weights, this will alter the frequency at which the bars vibrate, hopefully out of synch with the engine vibrations.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the pain goes away when you open a close your fists a few times chances are you're being a bit too tense. You could try exercising your hands a bit, either with a squishy stress balls or some Qi Gong balls or one of those gyro balls if you're feeling fancy.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How tight are your gloves around your wrists? Could this be stopping circulation?

Other than what's been mentioned, depending on what bike you're riding of course, try riding so that your forearms are more or less parallel to the ground. A good test to see if you're gripping on too tightly is to do a chicken dance mid-corner. If your flapping arms effect the bike's handling, you're hanging on too tight.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 07 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheets for help guys Thumbs Up

I ride a ZXR so bars are at funny angle.

I have tried riding with palms resting on bars (fingers not wrapped around them) but they still hurt

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But secondly and most importantly when braking grip the tank with your legs and use your stomach mussels to hold your position. Not only will this give you more control when braking you will also find your hands will not get so sore.


Need to practise this as riding position means weight is always leaning on bars, holding tank with legs has left to more than one squashed potatoes (loads of pot holes round here Embarassed )

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Another thing that could be a factor is vibration, high frequency vibrations transmitting through the bars can very quickly make your hands numb. In this case try fitting some heavier bar-end weights, this will alter the frequency at which the bars vibrate, hopefully out of synch with the engine vibrations.


Could be vibration, as hands feel numb for 10 mins or so after getti ng off of bike Confused

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How tight are your gloves around your wrists?


They are tight enough not to be pulled of easily, but loose enough to feel comfortable
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