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 syl World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 17:21 - 13 Feb 2006 Post subject: How to remove a helmet from an injured person |
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Following on from this thread
Here is one recommended way of removing a helmet from an injured motorcyclist, should it be necessary. ____________________ Current bike: Kawasaki Z750S |
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tbh, dont do it, dont open urself up to acusations of blame, leave it to the proffesionals, paramedics and doctors.
My opinion anyway. ____________________ Current : 06 Zx10r, 07 Wr450f SM, 74 850 norton commando, 63 bsa b40, 1962 Triton 650, 67 Triumph Tr6r, 1955 Triton 750, 1978 TY250E. |
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Agreed, you could end up doing more harm than good  |
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Getting one of these and training how to use it is probably the best idea
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Leave it to the medics. I'd be pretty pissed off if some good samaritan paralysed me by trying to be helpful. ____________________ Northern Irish? www.nibikers.com |
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as all the above have said don't remove it, major possibility that it will cause more harm than good.
look on https://www.performancemotorcycleparts.com/ on the visor sticker section there is a sticker that says
"IN CASE OF ACCIDENT PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE MY HELMET"
A bloody good idea in my eyes.
NSR-Rulez ____________________ Past: 1985 Suzuki GS 125 + 2002 Honda NSR 125 R-2 + Ford Fusion
Present: Honda CBR 600 RR-5 + Suzuki SV650S-K4 + Mitsubishi FTO GPX |
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Hi,
In the original link it also indicated while doing this you have the collar and things available to put on straight away.
Unless the patient is definitely going to die then I recommend you dont even try, wait for the professionals.
I think FreshAl has the right Idea.
St Johns to a first aid for motorcyclists course which inclueds using the hatsoff kit.
https://www.sja.org.uk/essex/Emergency_Aid_For_Motorcyclists.htm
tgabber was going but it got rescheduled I dont know if he has done it yet.
I was thinking of doing something midlands way.
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I think its a good idea. thanks for the file mate
It never hurts to know. Like he said if the rider is unconcious, the airway is compromised. If it was a friend I would like to help them.
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I'm with St John's. On their first aid courses you are advised to only remove the helmet if there is a risk of death. The same goes for moving them. A first aiders primary job is to preserve life. ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls  |
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Hi,
dmamon, I think your profession gives you a great advantage but for most people I think it need to be more considered action.
Ie you talk about protecting the airway but if they were not actually having a visible problem I would not have a clue, I certainly would not try an intubation unless I was really convinced they were going to die before help arrived.
I mean its one thing watching them with a pen knife and bic pen on TV but the idea of doing it
I think I need some training - On the plus side most of daily bikes have a first aid kit now with those foil blankets for the less severe injury.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 3 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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