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Smoking Ban Vote |
Outright ban |
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44% |
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Ban but exempt pubs not serving food and private member clubs |
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Ban all except private member clubs |
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None of the above - I can't be bothered |
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killa |
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killa Won't Shut Up
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Posted: 13:09 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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I hate that quote, load of shite….
Anyways, how are you meant to speak up and defend against a drug which kills thousands a year?
Like paedophilia, you might enjoy it, but dam is it wrong…… ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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octane Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 13:16 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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daz|n00by wrote: | Quote: | All the smokers that are whinging can shut the fuck up; it's here, and you'll still go to pubs |
I dont drink so saying we will still go to pubs is subjective isnt it?
And i dont see why that makes me a sad cunt as you so childishly put it, because i dont go to pubs makes me a child?
i think a ban on beer would be a good thing, maybe stop loud mouth pricks spouting rubbish. |
So, you don't even go to pubs, so why are you getting so irate?
Not going to pubs doesn't make you a sad cunt, but anyone that does go to pubs suddenly abstaining because they can't smoke a cigartte, would be a sad cunt, yes.
If you choose to sit at home with your cigarettes, because you can't smoke, instead of socializing with your friends, you definitely need to get a grip. |
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bazza World Chat Champion
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Posted: 13:47 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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A comment I read elsewhere:
"Having a smoking area in a pub is like having a pissing area in a swimming pool."
Made me laugh, that did. ____________________ "That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college."
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Kickstart The Oracle
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distortion Nearly there...
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Posted: 14:20 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Hmmm, this is going to put alot of pubs out of buisness i think. I smoke like a trooper when im drinking, as Nighteyes has told me.
Looks like the local bargin booze will be getting all my buisness now.
Personally i think that places not serving food should be able to welcome smokers.
As a smoker myself i cannot stand to eat if someone is smoking around me and have either asked them to stop or taken it off them and put it out myself before.
Before this smoking ban came to light how much did we hear about it on the news ? how many people were signing petitions to stop smoking ? i honestly cant remember anything being mentioned about it.
This is the bloody foreign gits trying to rub a bit of them off on us
personally i dont care about all the new rules - i'll work round them. But what im bothered about is what is it going to be like for our kids and there kids and there kids kids ???
This country is slowly going to pot and its the future generations that are going to suffer i think. |
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Kickstart The Oracle
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distortion Nearly there...
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Posted: 14:33 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Kickstarts tip of the day
Smuggle ciggys from Poland
Cheers Kieth |
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m99dws World Chat Champion
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Posted: 14:40 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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palmer wrote: | It's just smoking... jesus
I can't see many people going with the law to be honest. If you need a fag, you need a fag. IMO if you go out to a bar/nightclub or what ever, you have to expect to come back smelling like a burning brewery. If you dont like it, go elsewhere.
To be honest i hardly see anyone smoking in public, except for pubs and stuff, so i see no problem with it.
I just can't stand the people who cry about it so much. |
You don't understand it because you have only just arrived at the legal age to smoke, and are still 2 years from being allowed into pubs and clubs.
Jeez, children should be excluded from posting in adult threads! |
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daz|n00by The Internet
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Posted: 16:39 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Quote: | So, you don't even go to pubs, so why are you getting so irate? |
You really don't see the big picture do you? i dont go to pubs for a drinking session because i dont drink only to socialize
It is my choice to go or not, it was my choice to smoke or not, it was your choice what pub to go in, now its not ,
you will be able to go in any pub you want because smokers have had their civil liberties taken away from them, if its right or wrong to smoke is not the point,
if i want to smoke or not has nothing to do with you or anybody else but now all of a sudden it is somebody else who i have never meet and will more than likely never meet who has taken my options away from me.
Was i asked?was i given an option?did i have any say?NO it was taken away from me because somebody thought it would be good for the country, (if it is or not is not my point)
How long before somebody else thinks that motor bikes should be no bigger than a 250cc because you dont need any bigger? how long before your only allowed 3 pints in a pub because that enough for a 6 hour session?
This is only the start of what is becoming /already is a nanny state that we will only be allowed to do what we are told to do.
I really hope some new laws are stupid ideas come about soon that afect bikers and then i can sit back and laugh as you all moan that your £4000 bike is no longer leagle in this country. ____________________ "Its Better To Burn Out Than Fade Away!!!!!!" "Lifes a bitch and then you Die"
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octane Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 16:56 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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JonB Afraid of Mileage
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Posted: 17:48 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Not too bothered about the ban apart from the private clubs bit! It's a private club, I go to the Perry Street club every week to play in the skittles tournament and 90% of people there smoke, both the landlords smoke, it wouldn't be the perry street without the fog of smoke.
Let the private clubs have their say and their own rules on cigarettes. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Posted: 19:13 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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House parties it is then. In the summer with a beer garden it won't be a problem. But in the winter. Pubs will be dead. Landlords of small pubs will suffer, if not lose their jobs.
IMO they f***ed up.
If I had the money I'd buy an off-licence because they'll make a killing.
Anyother w@nkers want to tell me how to live my life and what I can and can't do?
I don't remember a public vote on this.
Like I said earlier, 'speak easys'. Smokers/landlords will find a way around it. Smaller pubs will probably let you smoke anyway. Either that or close.
Wonder if the ban will last?
What makes me laugh is you can give beer to violent drunks in glass containers and glass can be lethal. Let's face it every bottle/glass in a pub is a weapon. But you can't have a smoke because somebody might cough.
Well at least we still have 18 months to smoke in them.
This country is turning to sh1t.
(I notice Australia have relaxed their migration laws. *Looks in to life out there*)
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spitfire Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 19:58 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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daz|n00by wrote: | Quote: | Smokers get very defensive when faced with their habit being restricted |
Yes i,m defensive about having my civil libertys taken away from me.
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Civil liberties? What your civil liberty to kill yourself and others? Yes that is really important. I don't meant to be rude but the above comment sounds like the ranting of a teenager.
What about my civil liberties? I want to go out and not run the risk of getting lung cancer, coming home stinking of smoke.
Remember you can still go to a non smoking pub and pop outside for a smoke....while I find it horrible now being in a smoke filled pub. How dare you suggest I'm in the wrong, smoking is anti social so why on earth do you think I should accept it? If I came up to you and covered you in food I ordered at the bar, making you dirty you would be outraged, you would think it was anti social, smoking is exactly the same.
While we are on civil liberties and all this "nanny state" crap, you have no idea what freedom and human rights you have in this country, more than most places in the world. A lot of people worked very hard and spilled a lot of blood for your rights, don't believe me? Try reading about some of the regimes around the world, what people suffered in the various wars we have had. Have you read about are various rights we now have being in the European Union? Mrs Spitfire did Law at uni, as she said we have never had so many rights and so much freedom.
So please spare me the civil liberties line, it's childish and insulting. |
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Kickstart The Oracle
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Posted: 20:10 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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spitfire wrote: | What about my civil liberties? I want to go out and not run the risk of getting lung cancer, coming home stinking of smoke. |
The risk that is so minimal that you probably stand far more chance of being run over stumbling home from the pub.
spitfire wrote: | Remember you can still go to a non smoking pub and pop outside for a smoke.... |
So what is wrong with a smoking room in the pub? Why must it be a ban?
spitfire wrote: | How dare you suggest I'm in the wrong, |
I suspect he dares because you are showing as much respect for his wish to smoke as the level of respect shown by someone deliberatly breathing smoke in your face.
spitfire wrote: | While we are on civil liberties and all this "nanny state" crap, you have no idea what freedom and human rights you have in this country, more than most places in the world. |
Not for much longer with interferring legislation, of which this is only one example.
All the best
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Mrs Kickstart Brolly Dolly
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Posted: 20:26 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Hi,
I am against the ban, I do belive a landlord should be able to ban smoking in all or some of his pub.
If enough non smokers want this then it will happen as an economic necessity, I avoid restaurants that are not all non smoking as I hate smoke when I am eating. I also do not allow smoking in my house. However I do not expect all restaurants to cater for me.
I am with Sadie and Keith on this one.. the thin end of wedge.
Regards
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spitfire Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 21:23 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Kickstart wrote: | spitfire wrote: | What about my civil liberties? I want to go out and not run the risk of getting lung cancer, coming home stinking of smoke. |
The risk that is so minimal that you probably stand far more chance of being run over stumbling home from the pub.
spitfire wrote: | Remember you can still go to a non smoking pub and pop outside for a smoke.... |
So what is wrong with a smoking room in the pub? Why must it be a ban?
spitfire wrote: | How dare you suggest I'm in the wrong, |
I suspect he dares because you are showing as much respect for his wish to smoke as the level of respect shown by someone deliberatly breathing smoke in your face.
spitfire wrote: | While we are on civil liberties and all this "nanny state" crap, you have no idea what freedom and human rights you have in this country, more than most places in the world. |
Not for much longer with interferring legislation, of which this is only one example.
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Passive smoking is iffy there is a high risk, besides health risk or not its still anti social.
As for having a smoking rooms thats a no no, as you have to consider the person working in that room. If they are subjected to smoke and their co workers not then you have a human rights issue on your hands.
I'm sure people moaned about civil liberties when they introduced drink driving limits...but over time society realises that its for the greater good. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 91 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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