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bazza World Chat Champion
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Posted: 13:22 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: Never Mind The Smoking Ban... |
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...this affects ALL bikers:
https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmbills/113/06113.i-iii.html
Bend over and grease up for such offences as:
Compulsory insurance for SORN'd vehicles.
Radar detectors AND GPS Gatso overlays made illegal.
Alcohol ignition interlocks - WTF are they?
A single speeding offence could get you 6 points.
That should slap the grins off all the smug anti-smokers faces. ____________________ "That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college."
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killa Won't Shut Up
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bazza |
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bazza World Chat Champion
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Posted: 15:38 - 15 Feb 2006 Post subject: Re: Never Mind The Smoking Ban... |
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instigator wrote: | SORN Vehicles - Don't have any anyway
Don't have radar detectors and don't plan to
Don't drink and ride.
And if I get caught speeding, well, I'll accept the consequence.
I'm of the optimistic nature anyway, I reckon it's all mumbo jumbo. |
It doesn't just specify radar detectors, it can be cam overlays for your GPS, or PDA database - even that edition of the AA road atlas that lists the gatsos round the country.
And consider this - not an unlikey scenario given your history of changing bikes - you buy a bike which someone trailers over to you on a Sat afternoon. You and he do the V5 stuff. From that point, if you don't have insurance for the new bike, you'll be committing an offence - even if it's in your garage on paddock stands with the wheels off and engine in bits.
Those were just the edited highlights. You want mumbo jumbo, try reading the rest - new offences, increased penalties for existing offences and more jolly stuff. ____________________ "That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college."
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SoND World Chat Champion
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Posted: 17:56 - 18 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Theyre really starting to take the piss.
Compulsory insurance for SORN'd vehicles.
Why on earth do you need insurance for something that's off the road? Would any of this money go to the government somehow?
Radar detectors AND GPS Gatso overlays made illegal.
Trying to make more money out of scameras.
Alcohol ignition interlocks - WTF are they?
Just seems like hassle and it's something else that can break and stop you from riding.
A single speeding offence could get you 6 points.
Seems a bit harsh, 3 points is already enough. Someone goes past a camera at 78mph and they suddenly have 6 points on their license which could make their insurance go up shitloads.
How can they even justify using gatso cameras when they have been proven to be inaccurate?
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Posted: 19:19 - 18 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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The brethalizer ignitions they are proposeing are only for people who have been caught drink driveng, and it serves the twats right
The insured sorned vehicles idea is fucking ludicrous, no way they can justify that on any grounds...
Radar detectors are illegal in most countrys allready.. not supprised they want to ban them.. its not going to stop people useing them, they will just use audio type detectors or something.. ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Posted: 21:35 - 18 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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After reading these posts I’m beginning to think moving from England To South Africa many moons ago was a decent idea.
I visit the UK regularly and can't get over how subservient most people seem to be
( hope that description isn't too strong ).
Out here, traffic laws are reasonably enforced in town but get out of town and its like going back 30 years. Get off the highways, there are plenty of great roads, speed traps are far and few between, and there’s very little traffic. 100mph plus cruising is a piece of cake.
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Posted: 21:58 - 18 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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What on earth is going on when you have to pay insurance for a vehicle that could be in several pieces waiting to be reassembled.
Fucking insurance rip offs.
Why get 6 points for speeding. A fellow worker got stopped speeding at 85mph (they overtook a marked car ), didn't even get wrist slapped.
By the way, she's was a she.
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cunni Spanner Monkey
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Posted: 22:06 - 18 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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SORN Vehicles MUST Be Insured - WRONG!!!
If you read the details closely in the very first line, the heading, you'll notice it says "Does not meet the requirements of the insurance policy".
All insurance policies have differing requirements, mostly the same but with the odd bit that varies.
Therefore, as long as you keep it standard or report to the insurance company that your bike has modifications and therefore get them approaved on your policy, then you have committed an offence.
If your vehicle is SORN, it does not require insurance, and as such can't be kept within the requirements of something you don't have, an insurance policy. You wouldn't be expected to put a modified vehicle back to standard whilst it was declared SORN.
Nowhere in those guidelines does it even hint that you must insure a SORN Vehicle.
Took me a while to figure, as I had the above comments in mind, but it soon become clear it has been read slightly out of context. Some good news at least, otherwise all Race Bikes, even BSB bikes in this country would need to be insured. Imagine a 15 year old trying to get insured on his/her Race GP 125! No way, not to mention cost of insuring a 1000cc 200+ BHP bike that is not road legal, has loads of unapproaved equipment on board and run's on non-road-legal tyres, fuel and has no headlights or indicators! Yikes!!!!! ____________________ TL1000R Parts For Sale! |
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kal9001 Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 13:30 - 19 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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the way i understandit, the insurance thing is trying to be like the new tax laws, unless you declare it off road then you are expected to be insured.
6 points for speeding is abit harsh, imean come on, they balme speeding for all lifes problems, its not, its dick head drivers who dont check their mirrors, dont obay lane seperation ect...was following a "galixy FM" van yesterday not sure what they were doing but the driveing was appauling, round a motorway junction drifted lanes twice then still ended up in the wrong one
people who dont know how to stay in a lane and cut roundabouts, and corners by going intoother lanes then back out again are the kind of people that cause accidents, speeding alone is not a problem.
the breath test thing again seems like crap, unless it is as suggested only for people with a previous conviction. but with all this extra stuff being added how is it going to help amature mechanics who are looking for a decent engine for their gokart "oh jeez i cant use that one id be there 3 years wiring it up!"
the gatso detectors are shocking...if you dont have the attention span to look out for them on the road then you shudn tbe driving anyway! i saw a scamera van yesterday, i slowed down as i saw it (he was facing the other way) but i can imagine people who were caught by that yesterday giving it all "WTF how can he get away with hiding there FFS" my answer...PAY MORE ATTENTION! what if it wasnt a scamera, and it was a delivery van and he was just about to pull out... wich again links back to the speed thing.
Speed doesnt kill, half witted corner-cutting, impatient, fools who dont pay attention to the road conditions kill people.
you need to have somekind of check upifyou cant spot a scamera van...how can you not see a big blue and yellow van with orange stripes over it and a big picture of a speed camera on the side! not to mention anything that parks in a bus stop is ether introuble or is the police... ____________________ Anyone stupid enough to think we will drag a load of wooden horses full of soldiers into our city is certanley stupid enough to drag all of ours into theirs! |
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I agree KAL. What annoys me is seeing some idiot doing 25mph in a 30mph, and even then they still cross the white lines into the other lane whilst taking a very slight bend/corner.
If I was to take the corner perfectly whilst doing 31mph I would be the "crazy dangerous nutter young driver"
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Stevie GooGs World Chat Champion
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MalcolmT wrote: | After reading these posts I’m beginning to think moving from England To South Africa many moons ago was a decent idea.
I visit the UK regularly and can't get over how subservient most people seem to be
( hope that description isn't too strong ).
Out here, traffic laws are reasonably enforced in town but get out of town and its like going back 30 years. Get off the highways, there are plenty of great roads, speed traps are far and few between, and there’s very little traffic. 100mph plus cruising is a piece of cake.
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Yeah might be good for bikes but there there is a lot of trouble in South Africa, i would be in a tank not on a bike. ____________________ Current: 2019 Yamaha T7 -> 2015 KTM Superduke R | 2000 Yamaha R1 Past -> 2009 KTM 990 SM -> 2005 kawasaki ZX10r -> 2000 Honda CBR 600 FY -> 2002 Honda XLV 125 Varadero
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 42 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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