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Mister James
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Media responsibility Reply with quote

Bearing in mind the recent furore over the allegedly hurtful and traumatising cartoons of Mohammed, the fact that the media in this country refused to run the cartoons, and the exhortations for people not to inflame the situation and upset muslim sensibilities, why is the BBC website leading with a collection of articles on the publishing of 2yr old footage of the unpleasantaries at Abu Grahib in Australia?
Naturally, as it's US soldiers doing the dirty, there is no problem in posting those pictures on the Beeb.

The Americans cleaned house after that all came to light, they've convicted 9 people, there has been no cover-up, so why is old news being recycled at such a volatile time?

It certainly seems that incitement and inflammation are ok as long as your target is the USA, otherwise it's racist/islamaphobic/un-PC. It smacks to me of the anti-american bias we have come to expect from the BBC, but it's the irresponsibility that really gets my goat.

What public purpose do these further pictures serve?

What could possibly be so important that the BBC that we all pay for has decided it will run them and risk further worsening the situation in Iraq and throughout the 'Muslim World'?

How, when they hypocritically pointed out in their previous headline articles this week that UK soldiers were at greater risk because of stories about abuse allegations, can they justify putting US/UK soldiers at risk over a story that is 2 years old, dealt with, and put to rest?

I've got to sort my TV license out this week - and it pisses me off that I'm going to have to give these clowns to endanger my friends and ex-colleagues.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am more often disgusted by the media's use of the 'shock' stories than I am by the content of the story itself.

Maybe the BBC are trying to compete with the 'News of the World'.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To paraphrase/steal from Ghandi. Media responsibilty, yes, I think it would be a good idea.

I lost most of my faith with newspapers when I was about 14, and whatever respect I still had went with the refusal to print the Muslim cartoons.

The media serve no purpose but their own, and everything they write/display is with the sole intention of selling more of their product. The BBC should be above that, as they don't in theory have to pander to advertisers. But they're not.

To end by paraphrasing/stealing from Bill Hicks. Every word they print is like a fresh steaming turd falling into my coffee.
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killa
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t have a TV licence, I get all the info I need from the net.

When I do watch TV and then switch it off, I’m not feeling too good about anything TBH.
Even at the young age of 22 I’ve seen the media grow as if it is its own power, I’ve seen it cause some grief and people seem to enjoy it now.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Re: Media responsibility Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
The Americans cleaned house after that all came to light, they've convicted 9 people, there has been no cover-up, so why is old news being recycled at such a volatile time?
Erm.. actually what they did to stop such video being released to the media was to ban all video cameras and camera phones from their service personnel.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the NOTW was out of order
" look at the nasty squaddies beating up the poor boys"
they had the video so must have watched the earlier footage of petrol bombs, mortars etc being thrown over the wall by a rioting mass.


But they didnt show that bit............

Thr media is pretty strange sometimes. Confused
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killa
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatmoorred wrote:
They had the video so must have watched the earlier footage of petrol bombs, mortars etc being thrown over the wall by a rioting mass.


Is that true?
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the guys doing the beating up were a "snatch squad" they ran out, grabbed a few of the ring leaders and brought them back for some attitude adjustment.
I say fair enough. Karma
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killa
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right, well of course its fair enough if they were provoking.

My flat mate was moaning about it saying shi* like ‘We are meant to be the good guys blah blah blah’, 'Thats just wrong'
I doubt anyone would know what its like unless your there, its also war, so I see nothing wrong with it.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Oh right, well of course its fair enough if they were provoking.

My flat mate was moaning about it saying shi* like ‘We are meant to be the good guys blah blah blah’, 'Thats just wrong'
I doubt anyone would know what its like unless your there, its also war, so I see nothing wrong with it.


My wife was under the same impression until I showed her the pictures of the crowds and the mortars going off, its as if our own people want to see us down, we made the media monster now we complain about it, what can "we" do?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stop buying the sun, daily mail and daily express...........

shit, that only leaves the guardian.
And we all know what happens when we start believing that rag, eh comrades !
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its an interesting story becuse of the way the politicians keep banging on about freedom and democracy for all. Essentially saying that our way is the only true, fair, free and good way.

Therefor actions by the troops that contradict these utterances by the politicians, cause the whole endavour smack of hypocrasy.

It seems the US gets bashed by this the most, but thats because they are just the ones who get caught doing it the most.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 15 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the 'beating' story that is a typical example of an incident being taken out of context and sensationalised.

I wouldn't have blamed the soldiers for shooting those rioters. Anyone seen throwing rocks could easily have been throwing grenades at them.

Giving them a beating might not look pretty but I believe it is a big let off from quite rightfully filling them with holes.

They were lucky to get away with a spanking. It wasn't 'torture'.

It just happens to make a suitably ugly, graphic clip that can be shown openly on front pages and newsreels. The News of the World jump on this and dress it up as 'disgraceful' behaviour.

I've seen far worse beatings on unarmed people by riot policeman in this country. Is that any worse!?
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