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				|   Posted: 14:18 - 02 Jan 2006  Post subject: Scotland / Wales |    |  
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				| I'm planning on touring Scotland and/or Wales during the summer after I get the bigger bike - I was wondering if anyone has any great places to go to for scenery and roads etc.
 I know bend, marjay, wave and a few of the other should have good ideas of scotland so I may need your help if your reading this
   
 Anyone know some good places in Wales that are a must-see as I pass on through?
 
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				|   Posted: 15:48 - 09 Jan 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| We went with the sole purpose of doing Skye and the Inverness - Kyle road and weren't disappointed.
 Anything north west you really can't go wrong with.
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				|   Posted: 16:19 - 09 Jan 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| IMO, best thing to do is head up the A9 to Inverness and keep going North to the tip of Scotland and work your way round towards the West of Scotland and head south. The east of Scotland is rather more boring untill you get to FIFE   ____________________
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				|   Posted: 12:26 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: Re: Scotland / Wales |    |  
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				| A few years ago I went up to Scotland for a week in a VX220 Turbo and had a blast. 
 My absolute best piece of advice is if you can, do the A87 from Invergarry to the Isle of Skye. Absolutely cracking road. It was voted the UK's best on some website a while back and when you see it it's obvious why. The scenery is breathtaking, the surface is second to none and the road itself has hairpins, fast corners, long straights, everything!
   
 I went in early May and remember the weather being pretty decent. Often got some rain when you arrived at Skye but the Invergarry end was usually dry and sunny.
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				|   Posted: 12:27 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: Re: Scotland / Wales |    |  
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				| A few years ago I went up to Scotland for a week in a VX220 Turbo and had a blast. 
 My absolute best piece of advice is if you can, do the A87 from Invergarry to the Isle of Skye. Absolutely cracking road. It was voted the UK's best on some website a while back and when you see it it's obvious why. The scenery is breathtaking, the surface is second to none and the road itself has hairpins, fast corners, long straights, everything!
   
 I went in early May and remember the weather being pretty decent. Often got some rain when you arrived at Skye but the Invergarry end was usually dry and sunny.
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				|   Posted: 13:11 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| Just another vote for getting as far north as you can. Excellent scenery and good roads.  
 Watch out for the time of year. Scottish midges take no prisoners. They also like dark clothing and anything that's hot and sweaty. So that'll be bikers then
  They also like wet boggy ground so if camping be careful where you put the tent. There's at least one campsite on Syke that's best avoided because of this. As for insect repellant for the buggers one of the very best is Avon Skin So Soft Body Oil/Spray (as allegedly used by the SAS). 
 Other than that, hope you have a good time.
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				|   Posted: 13:26 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| i heard scotland was a great place to tour, i wanna head up there when i get myself sorted out, espacially the south west coastal reagion for scenery. really easy on the eyes i'm told....
 have a look at this site for more ideas.
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				|   Posted: 14:54 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				|  	  | map wrote: |  	  | Just another vote for getting as far north as you can. Excellent scenery and good roads.  
 
Watch out for the time of year. Scottish midges take no prisoners. They also like dark clothing and anything that's hot and sweaty. So that'll be bikers then     They also like wet boggy ground so if camping be careful where you put the tent. There's at least one campsite on Syke that's best avoided because of this. As for insect repellant for the buggers one of the very best is Avon Skin So Soft  Body Oil/Spray (as allegedly used by the SAS).  
 
 
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 what about on the coast/beaches - will there be as many midges there? Am going up to the northern coast area in april + am wondering whether it would be better to camp on/near the beaches to avoid the little cretins.
 
 Also, are there any restrictions for camping in beach areas (obviously above the high tide mark!), or any other rural areas for that matter. I know most of scotland is privately owned, but is anybody going to care/ be bothered if I pitch up in a random place. Am not bothered about showering etc, so dont really fancy wasting a tenner for a campsite if poss (more petrol money
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				|   Posted: 15:20 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				|   Posted: 15:35 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| The Midges are everywhere, camping-wise you want a fairly dry location which is exposed to the breeze a bit. Beside standing water and under trees is bad, some places casn be utter midge death. If you are camping, the best thing is to light a fire and sit round it. There wil be fewer of them on beach-side areas.
 In my experience, midges on parts of the west coast think skin-so-soft is great because it means they can jab into you better and will bite you on general principle for smelling like a poof. My advice is to go to a hardcore mountineering shop (eg Tisos) and buy yourself some jungle strength insect repellant containing at least "75% DEET". You can get 100%, go for this, you don't need to use much, just wipe it over any exposed skin. Proper chemical warfare stuff.
 
 Don't let that put you off. I am badly allergic to midge bites and spend most of my free summer weekends camping in Scotland. Remember, they don't like dry and breezy locations. That dark and scenic looking tree-lined Glen may seem ideal for camping but it will be midge death.
 
 On the subject of camping and campsites, the Scottish parliment recently brought out new legislation giving a "Right of responsable access." to all land in Scotland. The keyword is RESPONSABLE, if you are not interfering with anything and leave things as you found them, you should be ok. As ever, common sense prevails.
 
 Fire sites could be a bit of a tricky subject, hasn't really been sorted out yet. We tend to only make a fire where there has been one before (which can also indicate a decent camping spot since it has already been used for that), where we can totally dismantle it as if there never was one or where it is not going to matter (eg. on the beach).
 
 
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Access rights extend to wild camping. This type of camping is lightweight, done in small numbers and only for two or three nights in any one place. You can camp in this way wherever access rights apply but help to avoid causing problems for local people and land managers by not camping in enclosed fields of crops or farm animals and by keeping well away from buildings, roads or historic structures. Take extra care to avoid disturbing deer stalking or grouse shooting. If you wish to camp close to a house or building, seek the owner’s permission. Leave no trace by:
 
 taking away all your litter
 removing all traces of your tent pitch and of any open fire (follow the guidance for lighting fires);
 
 not causing any pollution.
 
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				|   Posted: 16:10 - 27 Feb 2006  Post subject: |    |  
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				| Actually. You might get away with no midges in April. We usually go on a run to Galloway at Easter time because we can camp in the woods without being bothered by the little bastards. Depends on the weather.____________________
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