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yambabe |
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yambabe World Chat Champion
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Posted: 21:23 - 16 Feb 2006 Post subject: New Solution to Teenage Trouble? |
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I heard about this on the radio today, thought I'd google it as i wasn't sure whether it was a wind-up.
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Alarm to send street yobs fleeing
Teenage trouble-makers are set to be run out of town by an alarm which sends out a sound only they can hear.
Middlesbrough Council is drawing up the plans to pilot the "mosquito" units outside shops where teenagers congregate and cause trouble.
It works by sending out an ear-piercing noise which is only clearly audible to people aged under 20.
The product has been developed by Compound Security Systems in Wales and has been used successfully there.
The box, placed on the outside wall of a shop, emits an 80-decibel pulsing frequency between certain hours.
The device is currently being used in a Spar shop in Barry, Wales.
The shop's manager Robert Gough said: "Within days of having it fitted, the crowds of youths we were used to getting disappeared and they haven't been back since.
"It is more of an irritant than anything else - the longer you stay there, the more irritating it becomes.
"If you are walking past and there for a short period of time, it will not have much effect.
"It is on a timer and we set it for when we usually get the problems."
Councillor Barry Coppinger, the executive for law and order for Middlesbrough Council, said: "We had seen some research and it seemed to be worth a try.
"We have a problem with anti-social behaviour and so we thought we would acquire one unit to divert people from anti-social behaviour.
"It would need to be used sparingly and in a controlled way." |
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/4594094.stm
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phantomtek Lil Joe Tek
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Posted: 21:26 - 16 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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That's cool.
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 22:04 - 16 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Quote: | The box, placed on the outside wall of a shop, emits an 80-decibel pulsing frequency between certain hours. |
The Antisocial Behaviour (Scotland) Act 2004 wrote: |
# In any case where the underlying level of noise exceeds 21dB, 27dB and 31dB for night, evening and day time noise control periods respectively, the permitted level shall be 10dB in excess of that underlying level.
# If it is established has been established that the permitted noise level has been exceeded and the warning notice has been served any person who is responsible for the noise can be served with a fixed penalty notice (FPN). |
Source: https://www.scotland.gov.uk/library5/social/asbn-04.asp#5
So, in Scotland at least, a teenager would be able to make a complaint to the council about said device, which clearly exceeds the acceptable level of noise nuiscance. Upon measuring the noise, the person who fitted the device should be issued a warning notice. If it persists they are liable to a fine and confiscation of the equipment.
Even if the council officials can't hear the noise, it should be detectable with their measuring equipment.
Or is this a case of there being one law for those under 20 and another law for everybody else? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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R4nger World Chat Champion
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Posted: 22:38 - 16 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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What next? A teenager ray gun? |
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mr.z World Chat Champion
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Posted: 01:51 - 17 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Utter bollocks.. theres no reason anyone under 20 would be able to hear any sound frequancys different to any other age (other than somebody with hearing damage), unless for some reason teenagers have the same hearing range as dogs, cats or any other animal..
Anyone stupid enough to believe it deserves to have their £500 taken off them ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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yambabe World Chat Champion
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Posted: 01:58 - 17 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Believe it or not Mr Z they played it on the radio whilst I was listening to it. I certainly couldn't hear anything but they had a couple of teenagers in the studio who said they could.
Apparently pretty much everybody's hearing degnerates by a minimum amount per year, so once you get to over 20 your hearing is unlikely to pick this sound up and that's what he based his calculations on.
It doesn't make dogs go mental either, the guy who invented it said each time he played it to his dog the dog just pricked his ears up when it started, had a look around then went back to sleep. ____________________ Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate. |
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mr.z World Chat Champion
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Posted: 02:11 - 17 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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So that would also include any small children? allways bloody 6 yearolds causeing argy bargy arround here, bastards..
If its actually true (produceing a sound over a radio wont really mean anything if your radio wont reproduce the frequencys) little shits like this would take it as an excuse to start launching bricks through the window of the shop, so its pretty stupid...
Intersting idea, but they should be dealing with these problems propperly, if they just bugger off to another shop, or outside somebodys house..
Its give me an idea tho (begins designing of burbery ear defenders) ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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veeeffarr Super Spammer
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Posted: 15:08 - 17 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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Hey Jo,
Heard about this a while ago...
I like the way everyone laughs about it (Like they did when I saw it on TV)... However if someone made a device that'd repel gay/black/blue/pink/purple/furries then there'd be murder.
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Posted: 17:18 - 23 Feb 2006 Post subject: |
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It was on the Gadget show (with my cousin Susi... ) a few weeks ago.
They played the noise and I could hear it and had to retreat upstairs, and the two old boys who were enjoying the delights of dearest Susi with me couldn't hear a thing.
It's an horrendous noise for the people who can hear it. I imagine it would work. However, for babies and toddlers strapped to their deafening mothers it would be painful. ____________________ Avast! Pirates ahoy!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 94 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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