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numark1
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Polishing Reply with quote

Now that i have the day off work i want to get my exhaust nice and shiny. It is shining pretty well with just normal peek polish but it has a few scratches. Any advice on getting them off? I heard a fine emery cloth would do it but surely that would just scratch it. Confused
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

somethign like P2000 grit shouldnt scratch it but it may be hard to get hold of, if the exhaust isnt mirror finished try some autosol, seems to the dogs bollocks, really work it into the scratch to get any muck out and lighten the appearance of it, other than that you need a scratch and swirl remover but i havnt used any so cant say whats godd or bad. Thumbs Up hope this helps a bit
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh its shiney but it is scratched where the exhaust bracket is and i want to make it nice. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep seeing these motorised polishers in Halfords, and I'm always wondering if they'd work on a bike. 3,000RPM, they've got to have some effect. And they're on eBay for £20.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
I keep seeing these motorised polishers in Halfords, and I'm always wondering if they'd work on a bike. 3,000RPM, they've got to have some effect. And they're on eBay for £20.


Not for the kind of polishing Mark is on about.

For general polishing its ok for a car due to the size of the panels, for a bike its not worth it.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea but you have to have tub of scratch and swirl remover to use with it, all a motorzied buffer, drill or anyhting mechanical does is take the elbow grease out of it.
I would just get some thing for removing scracthes, ypou can buy stuff for watched and jewellery that will work well with softer metals, brass, copper alu and there is one for stell etc but never came across any, other than it'd be the smootest wet and dry possible at least 1500 or higher and try it on the back to make sure it doesnt put marks in......
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what type/depth of scratches you're talking about. My Yoshi can wasn't redeemable due to scars and pitting that polishing wouldn't shift easily. The sleeve could have been replaced, but the can had horrendously ugly welds - so I opted for the easy option and replaced it.

Any light scratches/scuffs can usually be polished out. Your course of action depends on how severe they are.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was waiting for your reply craig. Smile

Some are really deep do you think if i just keep polishing it some of the smaller ones will disappear?
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should do - remember, when polishing, you're literally rubbing away the metal (levelling it to the same level as the scratches). Give a section a try, see if it'll work for the whole can.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
Should do - remember, when polishing, you're literally rubbing away the metal (levelling it to the same level as the scratches). Give a section a try, see if it'll work for the whole can.


Agreed Thumbs Up

And I think something like Autosol is going to be too course for the job. Personally, I'd use original T-Cut and a lot of patience.

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PostPosted: 18:01 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The link pipes coming up a beaut, looking really good. Been polishihng it while watching futurama.

Can't take any photos as my sister has taken the decent camera to paris for the week. Mad
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Old Geeza wrote:
craigs23 wrote:
Should do - remember, when polishing, you're literally rubbing away the metal (levelling it to the same level as the scratches). Give a section a try, see if it'll work for the whole can.


Agreed Thumbs Up

And I think something like Autosol is going to be too course for the job. Personally, I'd use original T-Cut and a lot of patience.

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Strangly enough I was doing a little job for the National Trust today. Arlington Court to be specific. They were polishing some of their Cannons in preparation for the March re-opening. Anyway Autosol is one of the very few polishes they will use on metal surfaces because of it's gentle cleaning action. It's action is nearly non abrasive. They won't use Brasso, Lord Sheriton or similar because of their very coarse content and cleaning action.
T-Cut btw does contain very course agents. The Autoglym paint renovator equivalent is much kinder.





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PostPosted: 19:41 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:
Strangly enough I was doing a little job for the National Trust today. Arlington Court to be specific. They were polishing some of their Cannons in preparation for the March re-opening. Anyway Autosol is one of the very few polishes they will use on metal surfaces because of it's gentle cleaning action. It's action is nearly non abrasive. They won't use Brasso, Lord Sheriton or similar because of their very coarse content and cleaning action.
T-Cut btw does contain very course agents. The Autoglym paint renovator equivalent is much kinder.


Fair enough. If that's there opinion then so be it. But, I beg to differ. See the difference in cutting plastic with Autosol and T-Cut Wink

Mind you, I agree with you about Autoglym. Just bloody expensive, that's all Shocked

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PostPosted: 20:03 - 01 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found from experience that Brasso is a lot finer than Autosol, as I use it as a pre-finish polish (most of my polishing work is finished with Belgom Alu).

I've heard of different grades of Autosol, but have yet to use all of them (just make do with the regular grade for general polishing).
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I have quite a few scratches in my exhaust (From scrubbing with an abrasive sponge).

What's the best way to get them out? I also have brown crap on my downpipes I want to remove...

Will wet and dry do this? What grades would I need?

I have autosol and a couple of cloths lying around, but they didn't do much last time because I was lazy.

I might take the whole exhaust of and do it in front of the telly tonight.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delvard wrote:
Strangly enough I was doing a little job for the National Trust today. Arlington Court to be specific. They were polishing some of their Cannons in preparation for the March re-opening. Anyway Autosol is one of the very few polishes they will use on metal surfaces because of it's gentle cleaning action. It's action is nearly non abrasive. They won't use Brasso, Lord Sheriton or similar because of their very coarse content and cleaning action.
T-Cut btw does contain very course agents. The Autoglym paint renovator equivalent is much kinder.


Aren't most of those abrasive based where autosol is solvent based?

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, it depends on the depth of the scratches. Generally speaking, the deeper they are, the more metal you have to polish to reach the same level as them.

It's hard to say without seeing the metal infront of me, but I'll usually determine what grade of wet'n'dry I need to start with upon inspectiving the surface I am to work on.

As a guide, I'd guess a 500 or 600 as a test. If it's taking away too much, work up the grades and polish out the scratches you've made. Too little, either keep going with it (patience is they key when polishing) or move down to a coarser grade.

Here's my RVF being worked upon as an example of what the different grades will look like. I had to remove the Honda finish, so I remember starting at around a 240. Think this is half way round the 500 stage:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/DSC00539.jpg

At this level, there were quite a few sratches within the metal; which required constant polishing to remove so I could move onto the next grade of wet'n'dry. If I hadn't of done this, I'd just have been polishing scratches; which would have looked awful when finishing the work off.

This is 800:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/DSCF0003.jpg

1200:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/DSC00041.jpg

Final work, 1500 grit, Autosol'ed and then Brasso'ed.

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/DSC00640b.jpg

As you can see, I did this in stages over a 2 week period. The fairing came on and off so many times during this stage; what with having to use the bike every day for commuting, plus the commitment of a 9-5 job. If I'd tackled this during the winter, it would have taken twice as long - I can't work after work due to it being too dark! (Not that I'm planning on repeating the process on the Blade anyway).

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PostPosted: 11:19 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds stupid, but how much are varying grades of wet and dry going to cost?

Could I do a whole exhaust in an evening?

Isn't polishing the surface away going to make the metal more susceptible to rust?

Cheers,

Toby


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PostPosted: 11:19 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanna polish my frame Shocked

By the way, on the honda 400s, i've heard a cagiva mito tail unit goes on without too much fuss. Looks great, too Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 11:20 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy multi-grade packs in Halfrauds for about a fiver. Think they come with 4 grades, 2 sheets of each.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
You can buy multi-grade packs in Halfrauds for about a fiver. Think they come with 4 grades, 2 sheets of each.


Should be enough for an exhaust? Will it have more chance of rusting if I do this?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: 12:11 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be careful. Wet'n'Dry is more suited to stainless steel/aluminium. I presume the CG's exhaust is chrome plated, which could mean you'ld make the finish worse. Question
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 23 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
I'd be careful. Wet'n'Dry is more suited to stainless steel/aluminium. I presume the CG's exhaust is chrome plated, which could mean you'ld make the finish worse. Question


Oh, bollocks,

I thought it was SS.
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