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Trip
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Help i need some advice.... Reply with quote

Guys help ive just found out that my GF is Bullemic. Ive had my suspitions for a while now but she came clean today, I really need some help/advice on how to help her.
Does anyone have any experiance with this? How to help her through it?
She has had it before and split her Osophegous (spelling?) and i dont want it to happen again.
She refuses to see a doctor and i dont know what to do Sad
Any help or advice would be greatly apreciated.

What a great supject for a first post eh? Confused
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

She needs help, and she needs to go of her own will.

I'd do a fucking runner, but I'm a bastard.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd force feed her while her hands were tied behind her back and then dump her for getting fat.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've been together for over 2 years now and she's having problems with self harm too. I love her more than anything else in the world but its hard to love someone when they hate themselves.
She knows its a problem but doesnt seem to be able to stop it.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your gonnae have to convince her to seek help, but in the meantime you have to reassure her and support her. Not much experiance in this myself but I certainly would watch her very closely. Make sure she drinks plenty of fluids and talk to her in a non judgemental way. There is some websites which can give good advice,but PROOF READ them yourself first as equally there are websites which support this behaviour. Shocked

Tearing of the oesophagus is relatively common due to the continual retching. Longer term damage shows in the teeth rotting due to the stomach acids and of course damage to the vital organs.
Have you tried to make sure she keeps the food down for a minimum set period of time,gradually increasing this time on a daily basis. The longer she keeps it down the better.

Long term she needs specialist pyschiatric help with this problem.

Stick in there mate,she needs you Karma
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stick in there mate,she needs you


Good advice this. I've had 2 gf's with this. In fact I'm still with one of them and she's fine, and has been for years.

She needs professional help. The way forward is to go to the Doc's who'll refer her to a councilor. (Bloody good folks these).
All you can do is suggest it, volunteer to go with her (even just the waiting room) and go from there.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

flat spot wrote:
She needs professional help.


Spot on. Karma
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R's advice is best - not the running away bit - but she's needs to realise and more importantly admit she has a problem, only then will she consider seeking advice, the best advice I can give is be strong for her and hope that she will admit her problem. Good luck mate I hope it all works out for you and her Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, there is nothing YOU can do, its all down to how much your GF wants to do for herself.

The problem has probably be going on since childhood, so a quick fix aint gonna be round the next corner

People with eating disorders that I have nursed, typically have some form of self harming trait or habit, they can be very persuasive to get what they want, ie to hide the continuing eating related problem.

How did you find out, did she tell you? didn't you realise something was wrong beforehand?
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus. Definitely stick with her, at the risk of sounding really cheesy, your love for her could be the thing that pulls her through. She is going to have to go to her GP at some point, or she will end up very ill. Both psychically and mentally.

Take small steps together, and see if you can work up to going to the doctor. Try asking her about why she feels bad about herself, and reassure her. Tell her how much you love her and how happy you are being with her. If when you try discussing why she feels the way she does and she completely closes up, don't push the subject. Give it time and try again. Trying to force answers out of her will only make the situation worse, no matter how scared you are for her. There are lots of confidential call centres she can get in contact with, if she feels she wants to talk to someone but isn't ready for a face to face discussion. All the best. Karma
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 06 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

She admitted to me she'd done it before but it had stopped. But ive known something was up for a while and i just forced it out of her today.
I think she's been dropping hints for ages but not admiting it to me. Whenever i accused her of it she'd say i didnt care about her and that i didnt love her.
We had a fight last night about trust which ran over to today and thats when she told me. She seems to think that she's protecting me from something but thats not how i see it at all.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doctors, no pills, unless you want a girl who doesn’t resemble your missus currently with a brain made of mash potato.

I’m sure now you know about it, you’ll sort it out, and you know her best.
Ask her what she wants….
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
No doctors, no pills, unless you want a girl who doesn’t resemble your missus currently with a brain made of mash potato.

I’m sure now you know about it, you’ll sort it out, and you know her best.
Ask her what she wants….


If only it were that easy.

The first thing to remember is that the physical symptoms that are there to see are the result of the illness not the cause of it. Bulimia is a mental illness and needs to be treated as such.

This means she may need "pills", certainly in the short term. There is often an underlying trigger that sets people off with this particular illness, often involving abuse or a similar situation. The person feels like their intake of food is the only thing in their life that they have full control of. That's why she won't want to see anyone, because letting someone else attempt to cure her is a loss of her only control, and that's why this illness is so difficult to treat.

She must get professional help. No matter how much you love her she cannot get better until she has learned to love herself and it is unlikely that your support alone will be able to do this for her.

She's been very brave admitting she has a problem to you, and it sounds like she's a lucky girl to have you. However, you really can't allow her to transfer her obsession with food to an obsession with you and become totally dependant on you.

Get her to a doctor, go with her, keep supporting her, keep telling her she's a worthwhile and beautiful person.

If she truly refuses to get help, then unfortunately I agree with Toby. Leave.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you been going out for? This'd be a major factor as to what I'd do next.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said above, first thing is to get her to realise she needs help.
By telling you about it she's already opened the door on this so pushing it open a bit more shouldn't be hard.
BabyYam's advice is spot on.

She needs to get to a GP where she can get a referral to an eating disorder unit. They do out (day) patients. They also do in-patients and if it's bad they can section (mental health act) patients to force them to be there and can force them to have feeding tubes. However, your GF doesn't sound that far gone yet.

If the GP can't do anything there may be other routes via mental health. The self harm is a good reason to look into these.

If she gets to an eating disorder unit then they will teach her how to cope. It is a mental illness but it can be managed. It's a bit like alcoholism. That also is something that is lifelong, has no definitive cure and must be lived with on a day to day basis. If you can't cope with that then I would advise that in your own best interests walk away. However, if you want to stay with said GF do a little research of your own. That way you'll know what to expect. You may need a support system of your own to help you cope.

The people will bulimia / anorexia normally have a lot of emotional baggage. It's not uncommon for them to have been abused.

FWIW the missus is a qualified mental nurse and works on an eating disorder unit. I have counselling qualifications. So I have picked up a little of what goes on.

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PostPosted: 11:24 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

In the first instance you need to find out what she thinks about the problem, people with eating disorders are can be very difficult to treat as the presentation of behaviour can be rewarding (she's getting something from it). How have you addressed the problem?

How bad is the problem (this is not meant as an understatement), if her BMI is incredibly low (major implications) then is may be in her interests be be sectioned.

Is there any comorbidity i.e.are here any other mental health problems?

There is plenty of help out there but she needs to recognise her problem and want to deal with it or else she'll be caught in a cycle treatment followed by relapse for a long while.

In the first instance the GP will be a good place to start, they will refer her for assessment (psychologist) and then she can receive treatment as either an out-patient or in-patient depending on the severity of the problem.

Also consider what you want from the situaion, I undersand you are wanting/needing advice but why come on a bike forum to find it?

Good luck
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say you think she has been dropping little hints for ages, that to me sounds like it was a cry for help, go with it slowly and gently and again, best of luck mate Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's going to have serious mental & physical health problems for the rest of her life. Ditch the crazy bitch. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
She's going to have serious mental & physical health problems for the rest of her life. Ditch the crazy bitch.


Yeah, I count myself lucky I’m not suffering from this kind of disorder, as do you…..

Shame you’re a prick though eh? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfortunately zxr6 may have a point but on the up side she is unlikely to become a fat bloater
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 07 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jesus. Definitely stick with her, at the risk of sounding really cheesy, your love for her could be the thing that pulls her through.

Helping someone to the detrement of yourself would be counterproductive to both parties.

There may come a cut-off point where you must say enough is enough.
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PostPosted: 02:51 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not that bad yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia

at the bottom of this page are some links to potentially useful organisations
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Ditch the crazy bitch.


COLINWALL wrote:
Zxr6 may have a point


Hmm, ok.

Rich’s post was asking for a bit of advice that’s all, possibly people on here have been through it or maybe their partner is in a similar condition.
I’ve known friends to do this, on one side I had a girl who was a bit over weight so she tried it out, and the other was more of an attention seeker. Either way I wouldn’t call them crazy bitch especially to someone one who is close to them.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 08 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah true
zxr6 was a bit blunt in what he said but theres a bit of truth there
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