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I had something similar happen a couple of years ago. I was on my way back from london,stopped to get some petrol and as it was sunday evening and pretty quiet on the M6 i thought i would give my lovely 16v Cally a bit of a blast from the re entry lane, so i go through all the gears with my foot nailed to the floor, get into fifth and think " Right, thats enough now" at about 95-100mph.
Only when i take my foot off the pedal the car wont slow down, in fact its still speding up. Put the clutch in and the revs rush straight up to 6000. Not good.
Very scary. What do you do ?
Knock it into neutral, which takes away the power, but the engine is literally going to explode if it carries on revving that high.Put it back inti gear and try to brake. No . Turn off the engine and knock it into neutral and cruise to a halt on the hard shoulder using what little brakes i had with no servo.
The whole incident probably lasted about 20 seconds ( from when i wanted to slow down ) but when your friendly car suddenly goes mad it scares the crap out of you.
Turned out to be pretty simple too. The gasket on the Air intake was old and half of it had been dragged into the butterfly and jammed it open, when i floored it so hard.
Being a great driver though, i didnt panic and fuck it up like that numbnuts |
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For a start, as I've said before, I very much doubt a 318 will do 135mph.
And read what I say, a car will have brakes AND steering even if you turn the ignition off. Like I said, they would become very hard, but they still work, enough to get a car slowed down and to a stop at least.
And I don't believe that he could have travelled for that amount of distance either. I used to travel that part of the A1 a lot and there are plenty of places where doing 90mph isn't clever, let alone in an out of control BMW at 135...
Yes, BMW will go over the car with a fine tooth comb making sure that nothing of theirs failed. They'd especially want to know what happened if they thought he was bullshitting, as it puts them in a bad light.
And I can't imagine anyone having the calm to call first of all the AA, then talk to the police while trying to keep a car under control at 135 either, can you??? ____________________ Colin McRae MBE 1968 - 2007 RIP
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HerbalDayZ wrote: | Yea idd i didnt say he wouldnt stear did i ?
I said power stearing ABS an any other electrical thing !!! .Still wouldnt like to controll the car myself |
ABS won't work, but the brakes will still work as long as the engine is turning. turning off the ignition, but leaving it in gedar/drive will mean the engine is turned by the wheels, which will have a braking efect in itself.
as far as I know, most power steering systems are still mechanically driven from the engine, and not powered by electric pumps, in which case, with the engine still turning, power-steering will still work, albeit at a reduced level.
As said before, the steering is only power assisted, so will still work, but get heavy, as it is a direct mechanical connection from the wheel to the rack. It's not like the old Citroen CX which had a loose dog-clutch type arangement giving you about 2 inches of slack before mechanically moving the steering column. in those, the system was almost entirely hydraulic.
granted, turning off the ignition on an automatic while driving isn;t a healthy thing to do, but it's far safer to do that and break the engine or gearbox than to travel at the speeds he was doing; unless someone can tell me there's something in a BMW to PREVENT the ignition being turned off.
I also find it hard to believe that he couldn't brake hard enough to slow the car enough to stall the engine.
I'm not saing he is bullshitting, but there are ways of slowing and stopping a car with a jammed accelerator which he didn't do.
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You would not like to attempt that which people are suggesting if this happened in a Citreon XM.
Quote: | Not wanting to start a jihad here but where in the world do they make cars that have NO steering without engine power? |
France, apparently.
All of our 5 cars are automatic, the only one that ever had a problem was the camaro, lost 2 gears and would only change up at WOT, bad enough in a normal car, but when you're prodding 350 rwhp with a large stick it becomes a tad more interesting. Auto's will always change under any conditions, though most won't start unless they are in park.
Quote: | Stuck in gear? Surely even in an automatic you can push the selector up into neutral? Then simply switch off, or am I missing something? |
From the story he is giving out, it is apparent that the transmission fucked it's pressures and locked in gear, it may be two coincidental problems that happened at the same time, but how likely is that? Another issue is that he said it was locked in gear, but not that the lever was locked, so he might have been moving the lever, but if the box had dumped oil/lost control of pressure it would do jack. ____________________ Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway. |
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As Feef said, and as I have already said once. If the ignition was turned off with the car still in gear, the engine would keep turning until the car came to a halt.
If the engine is turning, so is the hydraulic pump and therefore the power steering and brake assist will work. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 40 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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