A very odd request

[ali-b]

Hi,

I'm trying to get information on accurate drawings/diagrams for where tube lines run underneath Soho, London (Oxford St, Regent St etc)

I found plans and drawings that aren't accurate, and plans from 1937 that show what we want, but its hand drawn and somewhat warped.

Any suggestions of where to look next would be great, any technical scale drawings greatly appreciated.

To give you some idea of why I need this, I work in a recording studio on Gt Marlborough St and London council is trying to build a station right underneath us. There are loads of studios in Soho that will be affected by this (vibrations aren't ideal in a studio) and we want to see where the existing lines are as well as the overlays for the newly proposed lines (we have this diagram already).

Thanks in advance

A.

[Shaun]

Are you a suicide bomber?

[RobB]

The places you'd expect (and may have tried already). London Transport, TFL, London Mayor's office, local council (planning permission requests).

Would expect all of them to ask what Shaun asked, if not so directly.
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[ali-b]

No, I'm not a suicide bomber...but I understand where you're coming from in asking, its not something thats easy to get hold of for a reason.

As you can probably tell, I'm getting a little desperate for information though. There is a meeting at the houses of parliament on thursday that all the affected (and potentially affected) studios are attending and this information will prove useful.

A.

[ali-b]

I've tried TfL, council, mayors office and all point blank don't give that stuff out (for exactly that kind of reason).

I'm pretty sure this info was public domain once, so public records must still exist somewhere in some form (even if it is nearly impossible to find)

The Open Guide for London has loads of links to 'geographically accurate' underground maps, but they're not if you walk them.

Cheers,

A.

[WR450_geezer]

Do Libraries not have them?

WR
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[RobB]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Sounds like they are using terrorism as an excuse to do nothing (and after all, TfL are the ones who want to build the station, so they hardly want to help people object to it).

Any chance you could get a signal from a GPS unit in the underground? If so use it down there, get the log file and plot it on a map.

All the best

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[headlamp]

Is THIS is what you are looking for?
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[ali-b]

Hi everyone,

Firstly, thank you for all your posts.

I've tried a GPS device that seems to work quite well indoors to no avail (I didn't really think it'd work underground, but I had one so I tried anyway )

I've looked at the Simon Clarke maps before, unfortunately they're not accurate (specific example would be the Bakerloo line between Oxford Circus and Picadilly Circus, there is a 'dink' in the track that the map does not show).

The library ideas are great, I didn't even think of those I went to the London Transport Museum today and ask around with no luck but thats only one place...I'll be trying again tomorrow.

It does sound like 'official' organisations are getting in the way because of more than just terror threats.

Cheers all,

A.

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

They ARE using it as an excuse to stop you from delaying them.

Take them to court and get them to release the information under the Freedom of Information act (or whatever it is called). Cause a fuss at least because theyre greedy, scumbag's who deserve nothing more than to live in a gutter.
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[sickpup]

I don't think original accurate plans will exist as such as no planning permission is required for building underground and the tunnels were dug by hand.

Try contacting your utility companys especially water as sewers in particular are affected by tube lines.

[Danny]

Have you tried contacting the Public Records Office?

They are generally quite helpful.

[ali-b]

Hi,

Well....it seems that a few other companies are having this issue and have actually gone to court over it...the plans must exist, just nowhere any member of the public can get to...

Cheers,

A.

[biggerjohn]

Please let us know how you get on as this sound quite interesting.

Another angle you could try is talking to the papers like the metro about your problem if they publish it maybe some one reading it will be able to help.

[colin1]

If i were you Id start looking for another job as your recording studio wont succeed in stopping an underground route going underneath it.

The sooner you get another job the better as if there are a few studios affected, a few people will be having the same idea.
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[Paivi]

Try Hywel Williams, as he knows a thing or two about the tube.

https://underground-history.co.uk/front.php (go to 'Contact me' at the bottom).

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[8316]

whats wrong with headlamps post? isn't that what you want?
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