When does it become malpractice

Simple · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

with regards to my GP

I was prescribed antibiotics by her, 21 of them. With no advise as to what side affect I'd expect or if I should stop taking them etc.

I took 3 and was in agony. They had been too strong for my little body,
After a few days in agony and not eating I go to Docs again but see the normal doctor. He is slightly concerned that she prescribed me these, thinking they were a little too potent.

I get more tablets go home,
Gradually I can eat again and the pain goes away.

This was three weeks ago.

A few days ago my chest started to hurt again.
Yesterday I went back to the doctor, today I've been for a blood test and tomorrow I have to go for an X-ray.

I'm feeling dog rough at the moment breathing generates sharp pains and getting kitted up to go college (which I really cannot afford to miss) is hell.

So once they've decided what's wrong with me...

does this sound like negligence or malpractice at all?

I'm not a happy bunny and this question has come to my mind...

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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Interesting question...

To be honest I'm not sure.

However, it certainly does sound like your original GP should have been more precaucious with your prescription - after all that's why they have your weight, height and family medical history on file.

I hope you're feeling better soon and that there is nothing seriously wrong with you.
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

doctors cover for each other i reckon the most you would get would be that they would say doctors are not the same and will prescribe different drugs according to what they understand to work best

your reaction to the pills was an unfortunate unexepcted event but they cant be held responsible and you cant prove there has been any lasting damage so they will assume there is none

we know that doctors are human and make mistakes and some are better than others and some make more mistakes, doctors are going to say that.

Anything that goes right is due to the treatment and anything that goes wrong is regrettable but unforseeable.

but im not a doctor or a lawyet

its not like u are gonna sue anyway but i guess this is a suitable topic for a forum.

i reckon if u flash siggi your visor he weill put some brick through the doctors window for you.

i still reckon you should drink lots of water and not assume that pills by themselves will sort it. Drinking lots of water will help ur body fight the whatever and get rid of bad stuff.
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Simple · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

I don't believe that doctors cover for each other. If they don't trust a fellow GP then they won't practice with them. If the mistake was genuine and not obvious - for example a misdiagnosis that could have been made by any of them, then yes, they would support each other.

However, in this case, it is obvious that a particularly strong prescription could be harmful to someone as small as Simple, and it certainly doesn't take a doctor to realise that she is tiny.

When I have been prescribed with drugs my weight was always taken into consideration, its not a difficult thing to do. IMO the original doctor made a mistake - that had the drugs been any different could have been very dangerous.
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biker-dj · Spanner Monkey Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Karma :

I tend to believe Doctors would close rank or lose your notes, alledgely (spelling?) I had a right shit time in hospital and basically mistakes "were possibly made", I got all my notes but the hassle of taking it further just seemed too extreme, but having said that there's nothing stopping you from getting half hour free consultation from a CAB solicitor. Good luck what ever you decide and hope you feel better soon Thumbs Up

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

All drugs can have adverse reactions, it may be that that particular one did not agree with you.

You used the word 'potent'. If this was the word the second doctor used, it has a very specific meaning in pharmacology which is not the same as 'too high a dose' or 'too strong'. It describes the degree of effect a drug has which is not necessarily related to the dosage. So, for example, you would say Morphine is a more potent pain killer than Asprin when given in the correct dose range. The morphine does its job very well but you are almost certainly going to have side effects.

In any case, it would be just as inappropriate to give someone with a broken leg asprin as it would be to give someone with a sprained wrist morphine

It may have been the case that the first doctor chose a drug that was more potent in order to 'hit it hard', balancing the risk of side-effects against efficacy of the course of treatment (this mental process is carried out when you are prescribed ANY drug).

As with any drug, if you experience any unexpected adverse effects, stop taking them and contact your GP or the pharmacist as soon as possible. Most drugs will have a leaflet in with them explaining what these adverse effects should be and what action to take should you experience them.

Out of interest and if it isn't being too nosy. What was it? (the first drug)
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Simple · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

flux-cox-ci-cillin <- spelt phonetically
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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Suggest you get an insight into doctors by watching the TV show 'House'.

Any diagnosis is just a best guess based on the information you give.

That's why somethimes it's wrong and the prescribed medication has an adverse effect.
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Simple · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

Mrs Kickstart · Brolly Dolly Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Karma :

Hi,

Difficult to sue a doctor, you need to prove it was more than a mistake and that you suffered peremant damage as a result. Its the second thats a real bugger.

You also cannot do under no-win no-fee and the upfront costs are huge.

I got legal advice about this a few years back as they has messed up treatment of a broken leg.

Best to see a different doctor if you dont like one. I also check medication myself for dosage and contraindications and they have cocked up several times.

Get well soon

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nrml76 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Karma :

500 mg up to four times a day for someone (adult) of your weight is not unusual if a potentially serious infection is being treated. It is within licence. You will be informed of side effects by your doctor if they are very common or if they are very serious. Almost every drug has a very long list of side effects, that most people never get. To explain all of them to every patient, would take up too much time.

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Whosthedaddy · Super Spammer Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Karma :

On the wards little old biddies are prescribed 250-1g four times a day depending on what its for.

The dose seemed perfectly acceptable

Often the doctors (inc nurses) and pharmacists forget to advise them on the medications, the reason I dont know Confused

All medications come with medication leaflet and should have the directions on the bottle / box

Dragonfly · Super Spammer Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Karma :

i hope he isnt anything like my old doctor who had me addicted to everything from my early teens and told me i couldnt get addicted to tramadol and other numerous drugs that i should not have been given and am paying the price for it. i dont really take pain killers anymore cause i dont trust my doc. it took 4 docs once to come to the conclsion i had chill blains in my feet for gods sake and i even knew that! you know your body best put it that way, that dont mean ignore the doc though, just if you dont trust doc def get second and even third oppions.

hope you feel better soon. x
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

the problem with trusting doctors is that a lot of doctors trust what the drug rep tells them
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Whosthedaddy · Super Spammer Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Karma :

On my Cardiac Care Unit, the junior docs know absloutle feck all, so the nurses are actually telling the docs what they are supposed to be telling the nurses to do Eh?

I believe that some GPs are very out dated and old fashioned in their approach to treatments
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