reliability

hazza · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Karma :

ok before people tell me if i want reliability dont have a 125 sports but just wondering am i right in thinking the nsr is the most reliable even though the least powerful?
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

It's generally accepted as being that way, but it's better to think that they're all unreliable and you've just got to find a well cared for one. A neglected honda could still cost you the same as a neglected RS.

The lower state of tune should put less stress on the con rod, bearings etc... The tricky thing with this is i don't know what standards these parts are manufactured to. In an RS or Mito, they're engineered to very high quality due to the power. They might not be as over-engineered in the honda. Whether they are or not, i simply don't know.

Just treat them all as unreliable, that way there's no suprises.

Jack
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veeeffarr · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Karma :

Japanesse

Italian

Is my personal rule of thumb.

hazza · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Karma :

so how much less power will it have than my mates tzr...because that things like shit off a....
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

the power difference won't be huge. His TZR will probably be heavier, so that may offset it. If you take a dump before getting on the bike you'll probably get a decent gain in performance.

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cagiva gezzer · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Karma :

The main thing the NSR has over the "italian"* 125's is the fact that it's got a bridged exhaust port. This puts less strain on the rings and piston giving longer life at the expense of outright power.

The mechanical side of iatlian bikes isn't bad. It's just all the other bits.

Corrosion.
Electrics - this weekend my ignition barrel wouldn't kill the ignition. Just another problem to add to the list, but then it started working a few miles later.

I'm sticking with italian / european bikes as the thought & design behind them is so much better than jap bikes. Jap bikes work, but they don't tend to look too good. Although they've caught up now.

* wern't the latest nsr's built in italy?
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Trill · Nova Slayer Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Karma :

My RS125 has had around 10,000 miles on it (give or take)

Never had a problem with it :p
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

if u want a reliable 2 stroke 125 get a dt125

nsr125s get electrical problems, and rs125 get engine problems

but with the rs125 this is mostly from ppl not getting the maintenance (such as rebuilds) done
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swanny · Spanner Monkey Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Karma :

get eithere a yamaha sr125 or a suzuki gs 125.. threres a method behind the madness of training schools using them Smile

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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

The NSR was designed and most were built in Italy.

Mechanically they do seem more reliable. As mentioned above the bridge on the exhaust port does help (the exhaust ports on the RS and Mito are massive), although the RS and Mito are fine if treated well (basically the NSR is more resistant to poor treatment, but no better when treated properly). However if anything the NSR is worse that the RS with the electrics.

The finish on the RS is not bad. To be honest I would say it is pretty good (better than my Bandit). Same for the NSR. Both have issues, but then all bikes do.

All the best

Keith
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