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PostPosted: 15:39 - 18 Apr 2006    Post subject: 2,300 jobs go as car plant closes Reply with quote

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/4919312.stm
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 18 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

and with the lack of a general election close by nothing will be done by the government to save it.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 18 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blows, i read in another article that even the french won't be safe as european car manufacturers exploit the cheap labour available in the east.

At the end of the day we buy the cars so we should make them.

I wonder how well them companys profits would look if there sales were limited to the czech republic/ slovakia and the rest of them eastern countrys that they are now flocking to.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 18 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the thing is consumers are suckers for a bargain , if something costs £50 which used to cost £100 they'll not question where it was made from most of the time and buy it.

Its whats keeping inflation so low, everything bearing the label Made in China or someother cheapo labour country.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if it was a british car maker in france then the french would all boycott it (remember beef),people here(in this country) are to fickle to go along with anything like that and will all say it's sad but nobody will do bugger all about it unless it affects them directly.
It's exactly why MG/rover went down the pan because people here don't give a shit about the people who live in there country and all bought shitty french cars instead, the only reason triumph are still going is because the yanks like them.

I'd like to see all the workers there walk out tomorrow and fuck the company but then they'd all lose out on redundancy pay, looks like they're fucked and left to rely on the government. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rely on the government? , don;t you remember what Maggie Hodge said when Rover went down the pan? , oh they can work at Tescos.

which still isn't a solution as theres a wage disparity as well you know if the pre-election bribe cost 25 million to pay off 6000 rover workers

= £4166. / month / worker

Compared to say stacking super market shelves which pays about £5.05 and hour.


and NL aren;t going to give a flying fuc* cus theres no general election coming up and their noses are deep into the trough.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rely on the government? , don;t you remember what Maggie Hodge said when Rover went down the pan? , oh they can work at Tescos.


That's what the thumb's down was for at the end. Laughing

My point was that they are all screwed, it doesn't matter which party's in power because they are all to self serving to tell europe when they are taking the piss and stick sanction's on them importing there cars here so it becomes cheaper for the cars sold here to be made here.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry I didn't realise your point and took it the wrong way.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

englands 'flexible' labour laws means its easy to hire and fire people so we have lower unemployment than france but with something like this factory closure, it means its less hassle to fire english workers than it is to fire french workers

the problem with 'flexible' labour laws is lots of people have shitty jobs with no security where employers dont value them or develop them as they can just get rid of them for someone else easily.

so in france the people who are in work have career type jobs with job security
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds pretty much like my career so far , that you get hired for long term job that doesn't really exist , to fill a temp role , the second you finish the work you have been drafted into do , you are told to sling yer hook.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and with the lack of a general election close by nothing will be done by the government to save it.


Why should my taxes be used to pay for a French car manufacturer?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why should my taxes be used to pay for a French car manufacturer?


sadly our taxes paid into the eu have made it possible for the slovakian government to give peugeot the incentive's to move there, so in a way our taxes have paid for them to move out of britain.On top of that the french government susidised the french car manufacturers and the french public bought there own products instead of snubbing and making fun of them.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrs Spitfire has a Citroen, I was thinking about torching it....mind you I was thinking about doing that before they closed the car plant in Coventry Wink
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:
Itchy wrote:
and with the lack of a general election close by nothing will be done by the government to save it.


Why should my taxes be used to pay for a French car manufacturer?


your taxes were paid for the pre-election bribe . and to pay for Cherrie Blair's hair stylist pre election to the tune of 7K.

And when I say that I don't mean throw money at it willy nilly I mean special arrangements which the tories used to make all the time which prevented golden goose syndrome.

Ie you can get small eggs ££££ , or you can kill the goose due to greed.

The IR has dispensation to agree what can and cannot be written off as expenses , better to lose a few 100 thou and still get the income tax NI recipets to the tune of several million than to lose it all.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

plugger147 wrote:
m99dws wrote:

Why should my taxes be used to pay for a French car manufacturer?


sadly our taxes paid into the eu have made it possible for the slovakian government to give peugeot the incentive's to move there, so in a way our taxes have paid for them to move out of britain.On top of that the french government susidised the french car manufacturers and the french public bought there own products instead of snubbing and making fun of them.


treasonous behavour but what do you expect from the Blairs they got a loan for this Indian who built a steel plant in Romania which put about 5000 people out of work in the UK steel industry ,

New Labour New danger?
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:


New Labour New danger?


Change the record. If it's not this government putting extra taxes on everything and pissing people off it will be the next.
Joe Public is never actually happy with the party in power.
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PostPosted: 02:03 - 22 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:
Joe Public is never actually happy with the party in power.


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PostPosted: 04:56 - 22 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:
Joe Public is never actually happy with the party in power.


I bet most of us will be if we get a 'none of the above' option.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 22 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but voting for them 3 times in a row probably encourages them,

in fact if elections cost 500 mil a time and NLs own watchdog says they waste 23bn a year tories say 40bn , some other think tank says 85bn , maybe we should have elections on a yearly basis.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 22 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
m99dws wrote:
Joe Public is never actually happy with the party in power.


I bet most of us will be if we get a 'none of the above' option.


none of the above changes nothing , it will still be parties getting in with 22.5% of the votes ie the one that gets the least votes overall wins! (due to the way the first past the post system works).

78% of the electorate DIDN'T vote for them.
65% of the people who voted, DIDN'T vote for them.

That's why they have 56% of the seats in the Commons.

There should be an option on the ballot forms

"Bloody revolution"

which would give a mandate for such an event, hell even the ancient Chinese had a mandate for a bloody revolution , huge natural disasters were often seen as the heavens being pissed with the emperor.

This would probably rake in lots of cash too on pay per view TV as the government is put up against the wall..
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