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bryce86
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: YZF 600 R6 vs YZF R6 Reply with quote
whats the diff?

Insurance wise its about £2k fr me!! Shocked
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Presume they mean YZF600 (ie, Thundercat) and the R6.

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eh?

YZF600 is a Thundercat, which is an entirely different animal to an R6.

YZF600R is an R6.
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
pmsl @ Kickstarts avatar! Laughing

Im getting quotes from Bennetts and its asking me whether its a Thundercat or YZF 600 R6 or a YZF R6?

R6 is £400 to insure
YZF 600 R6 is £2500
Thundercat is £500 ish

Hmmm Confused

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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's alot of difference.

Few specifications:

Yamaha YZF-R6 (1999)

Power: 120.00 HP (87.6 kW)) @ 13000 RPM

Torque: 68.00 Nm (6.9 kgf-m or 50.2 ft.lbs) @ 11500 RPM

Speed etc.

Top speed: 250.0 km/h (155.3 mph)
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.400 seconds
60-140 km/h (37-87 mph), highest gear: 10.600 seconds

Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat (1999)

Power: 98.00 HP (71.5 kW)) @ 11500 RPM

Torque: 66.00 Nm (6.7 kgf-m or 48.7 ft.lbs) @ 9500 RPM

Speed etc.

Top speed: 236.0 km/h (146.6 mph)
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.300 seconds
60-140 km/h (37-87 mph), highest gear: 10.600 seconds


These are the 1999 models as you can see, there is quite a difference between the two.
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks very much for the stats mate Smile

so what is the YZF 600 R6

on Bennetts its called Yamaha YZF 600 R6 Extreme Power
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
thanks very much for the stats mate Smile

so what is the YZF 600 R6

on Bennetts its called Yamaha YZF 600 R6 Extreme Power


Christ knows, but pick one of the two.

Yamaha YZF-R6:

https://home.tiscali.nl/~bertie/superbike/img/yzfr6red.gif

Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat:

https://dodrt.dod.no/006/images/yzf600.jpg


Don't use Bennetts for quotes is my rule of thumb, and I've never heard of a 'Yamaha YZF 600 R6 Extreme Power' sounds like a racebike, prototype or a pisstake.

Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
phantomtek wrote:
There's alot of difference.

Few specifications:

Yamaha YZF-R6 (1999)

0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.400 seconds

Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat (1999)

0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.300 seconds


Surely that's an oversight? With the lower weight and the extra power, I thought the R6 would be quicker off the line.

Edit: By the way, the Thundercat is a much better beginners' bike. I should know. Wink
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rookie wrote:
phantomtek wrote:
There's alot of difference.

Few specifications:

Yamaha YZF-R6 (1999)

0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.400 seconds

Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat (1999)

0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 3.300 seconds


Surely that's an oversight? With the lower weight and the extra power, I thought the R6 would be quicker off the line.


Just quoting the stats mate.

www.bikez.com Remember these are the stats from a website and aren't official and the bikes are 1999 models. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
just find it odd they have 3 bikes listed when there's only to YZF models?

£431 is my quote, but for a Suzy GSX6R its £1330, same for a Kawasaki ZX6R Ninja.

bryce

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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
just find it odd they have 3 bikes listed when there's only to YZF models?

£431 is my quote, but for a Suzy GSX6R its £1330, same for a Kawasaki ZX6R Ninja.

I think I may have found a loop hole?


The Thundercat is in a lower insurance group than those other two - so not a loophole as such but definitely a way to get cheaper insurance.

Insurance groups:

YZF 600 (Thundercat) 599cc Group 14
YZF R6 599cc Group 15
GSXR 600 599cc Group 14
ZX -6R 599cc Group 14

That's actually quite surprised me, thought the ZX6R and GSXR would be on par with YZF-R6's insurance wise.

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bryce86
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
But the R6 is cheaper than the Thundercat for me? Similar hp sportsbikes are costing 3x on insurance?
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
But the R6 is cheaper than the Thundercat for me? Similar hp sportsbikes are costing 3x on insurance?


No idea, could just be your circumstances coming up cheaper - don't settle with that quote though, try other companies such as www.4counties.co.uk (Ring them) and www.e-bikeinsurance.co.uk who are also good, if you try CIA insurance they may be able to beat your quote, it's all about haggling and playing them off against one another to get the best price.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah your right phantomtek, just had quotes of around £1k everywhere else for the R6, but now Iv got this one up my sleeve i'll see what they can work out now Twisted Evil
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
yeah your right phantomtek, just had quotes of around £1k everywhere else for the R6, but now Iv got this one up my sleeve i'll see what they can work out now Twisted Evil


In that case ring CIA because they promise to knock a significant percentage off your quote, are you definitely sure this quote of £431 is for an R6 and not a Thundercat?
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
give me 5mins and i'll post a screen shot Smile
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
here we go, see what you make of it
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I click the bottom R6, 2002 on
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
here we go, see what you make of it


How old are you by the way?
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
20 (well in 2 weeks)

So what dya think phantomtek, is the one im clicking the real R6?
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 27 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bryce86 wrote:
20 (well in 2 weeks)

So what dya think phantomtek, is the one im clicking the real R6?


No mate that's a Thundercat.

I would go for the 'Cat anyway seen as it's a good first big bike and will take better to the restriction I think.
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
phantomtek wrote:
bryce86 wrote:
20 (well in 2 weeks)

So what dya think phantomtek, is the one im clicking the real R6?


No mate that's a Thundercat.

I would go for the 'Cat anyway seen as it's a good first big bike and will take better to the restriction I think.


Soz, Iv just checked my image i posted, I see its the Thundercat thats highlighted - this isnt what I clicked on, its the YZF R6-599cc-(2002-ON) . The one at the very bottom of the list.
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's the R6 yes.

Nice quote, have you bought a bike or had a look at prices yet?
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
its the one circled in red, NOT highlighted in blue
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bryce86
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
phantomtek wrote:
That's the R6 yes.

Nice quote, have you bought a bike or had a look at prices yet?


Still to book my lessons and test lol! Basically im just pricing the job up just now. And trying to figure out what bike to get if I do go ahead.
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