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Loss of balance, and/or interaction with another solid object.
Hope that helps!  |
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 Groove World Chat Champion

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| stinkwheel |
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 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

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Had a few crashes which can be attributed to:
Mechanical failure x1.
Someone elses dangerous driving x1
Black Ice x1
Gravel on road x lots when I was learning.
Unknown highside x1
The mechanical failure was totally unavoidable, a rigging screw moved on my sidecar setup and I have no idea how. They had been adjusted and tightened two days previously.
Again, I had no-chance with the car crash, the driver was charged with dangerous driving, 100% his fault.
I would have binned it on the black ice every time, as is the nature of the stuff, you can't see it is there. It could have been avoided by not going out when the temperature is below zero but that is hardly practical.
I am getting a lot better at avoiding/riding on gravel.
I have no idea what caused the highside (other than the rear wheel briefly losing traction for reasons unknown) so I can't really say if it was avoidable, I have done the same corner many times at higher speeds in similar conditions. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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| extreme3d |
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 extreme3d World Chat Champion

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| stinkwheel |
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 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

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I should give an honourable mention to Czech made 'Barum' tyres as being responsable for many of the offs that I earlier attributed to gravel.
They are an exact replica of 1960'sgroove-cut Avon speedmasters (aka 'slidemasters') but carved from a bakelite-like substance during the communist era in the former Czechoslovakia. I had them on my Jawa for 15k miles and they still had nibs on the main tread. When I think about it, the time when I stopped falling off all the time co-incides exactly with the time I fitted MT65s to that bike.
https://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/avon_tires/avon_speedmaster.gif ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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| Harold_Shand |
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 Harold_Shand World Chat Champion

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One very low speed off on ice.
To the mechanics in a garage in Southall who just stared at me blankly trying to lift the bike on an icy road.
A couple of skids which have been me following too close to the car infront and not having an escape route.
Filtering down a cycle lane and a car door opened to drop someone off. Lessons learned... ____________________ BCF's 6th favourite poster 2009-2010
Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation. |
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Binding brakes, wet roads and a small patch of oil. As soon as the front wheel hit the small patch of oil (cd sized), the front wheel locked due to the binding brakes.
Completely my fault for riding a dodgy bike , So my theory is dodgy maintenance is a major cause of offs  |
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 michaelryland Borekit Bruiser

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| the grim reaper |
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 the grim reaper World Chat Champion

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There's a million and one different reasons for crashing, the vast majority of which you can predict. Every crash is different, no two are the same.
I've crashed five times, it's no co-incidence that four of them were before I passed my test and on the fifth I hadn't allowed enough margin for error when I hit diesel (I was too far cranked over for recovery).
I would say that 99.9% of crashes are due to human error, be it bad maintenance, poor riding or another human doing something stupid. Quite often it's a combination of all three.
Cheers
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IMHO main reason for crashing on a bend is looking where you expect to crash and therefore going straight towards it (target fixation). ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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 SoND World Chat Champion

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One time I fell off because I threw the bike into a tight corner far too fast and lost the front end. Lost it because I had a standard tyre on the front and a pirelli on the bike.
No it's not my fault.  ____________________ Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister." |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 296 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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