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Crazy Manx Man
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Honda Cityfly Mods? Reply with quote

Evening all,

I own a 1999 Honda CLR125 Cityfly...and I've been looking for mods for some time with no success and I'm wondering if any of you folks know where I can get some performance bits for it?...Smile

Or if you know any shortcuts or tips to get more power out of it please pass them on....Thanks In advance Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm idont think there is anything you can do mate Confused short of de-ristricting it Confused but i think most of um arnt even restricted ?
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G
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not restricted.

The cheapist and easiest thing would be to sell it and get a faster bike....
No I'm not takin the piss.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they use the same engine as the CG?
I think there a nice alternative to a CG. Probably about the same power though?
I take it there a four stroke unit as your all saying sell the bike though...
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's a four stroker and I do believe it uses the same engine as the CG too....it's great fun to ride but i want a "bit" more power.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

like G said, do what everyone else does and buy a bigger bike, its like your internet connection, you couldnt squeeze a download rate of 60kb/s out of a 56k modem could you?
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It uses the XL125 engine. Basically it is an overhead cam single engine, similar to the pushrod CG125 engine but a bit more powerful.

You might be able to get a bit more power out of it. There used to be a big bore kit available for the XL125 but I dont know if it will fit the XLR / Cityfly engine

All th ebest

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PostPosted: 23:23 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimboJ wrote:
like G said, do what everyone else does and buy a bigger bike, its like your internet connection, you couldnt squeeze a download rate of 60kb/s out of a 56k modem could you?


You could actually with v42/v42bis compression Smile

and the right file of course!.

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G
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 12 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and a perfect phone line

But I think he may have been talking about 60kilobytes per second, which is impossible.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i was.....60kb/s or 60 kilobytes per second! Laughing Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also own a City fly and im sorry to say but there isnt much you can do to it. It aint that slow until you get it onto big roads, it does have a slightly more powerful engine than the cg if i remember its a bit heavier than a cg so that extra power doesnt mean more speed i do seem to pull off faster than cg's though. Anyway id stick with it until you can get a bigger bike.
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Milo
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking the same thing the other day!
I'm thinking of getting one as my drive to work would be bumber to bumber traffic.
What's their top speed and what are they geared to? I was thinking of gearing it down to about 50mph for some extra oomph, what do you think?

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PostPosted: 11:39 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably top out at about 75-80 mph.
They look comfortable enough. i think its a fairly nice looking bike aposed to the other 4 stroke 125's on the market!
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

apart from the Sachs XTC of course.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

i knew someone would say that.
But the price range is a bit different,
is there actually anyother sports 4 stroke 125s....
Or is it just sach that thought lets have a sports 4 stroke 125...
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

run it on nirto methanol it will be really fast then but at 60 quid a gallon i think not
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think its the only one, sachs made it becuase its going to be very hard to make a 2 stroke legal in a couple of years and they want to keep the model on the road for more than 2 years.

also, some people hate having a bike that sounds like a wasp.
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Milo
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be great if there was a 2 cylinder 4-stroke 125 or 250 that had good performance, economy and look good. yeah, the extra weight would have to be compromised but i'm sure it'd boost the performance...and sound!
I'm still looking at a import VT250 as a commuter when i've got the cash and a bigger bike to go places, so probably never then Sad
The thing is with the Sachs XTC, i've never really heard much about them, so i wouldn't wanna chance it.
now if honda made it...
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CityFly will do about 60mph although mine doesnt sound like its enjoying itself at that speed. For traffic and riding around town i think its the best bike you could get. The breaks are decent its *Very* comfortable due to the rear shock being so soft you can ride over a speed bump near enough flat out and it doesnt bother it. I would thoroughly recommend these bikes to anyone looking for a 125cc commuter. Oh i forgot to add youll get around 170 miles to a tank of petrol which is awesome!
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

One of the stands at the NEC had a 4 stroke 125 sports bike prototype on it. Maybe Rieju. Basically it was there 50 with a 4 stroke engine

All thebest

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Crazy Manx Man
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew wrote:
The CityFly will do about 60mph although mine doesnt sound like its enjoying itself at that speed. For traffic and riding around town i think its the best bike you could get. The breaks are decent its *Very* comfortable due to the rear shock being so soft you can ride over a speed bump near enough flat out and it doesnt bother it. I would thoroughly recommend these bikes to anyone looking for a 125cc commuter. Oh i forgot to add youll get around 170 miles to a tank of petrol which is awesome!


Andrew!,

I have to agree! an excellent buy!!

Looks as though I'll just have to go for a rear brake disc, an oil change to Castrol RS4, a set of good brake pads (any recommendations?), ditch the rear pegs, Racing Bars+Grips and some lighter wheels.... Cool

Oh and there is only one downside to this Bike(From ym oppinion)...The front headlight!! Mad It's like a Candle!
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm not trying to put a damper on things, just trying to be realistic:

>>Looks as though I'll just have to go for a rear brake disc<<
I presume it's got a drum at the rear, I also presume this can lock the rear wheel. If so do you really need better braking?

>>Racing Bars+Grips<<
What exactly do you mean by 'racing bars'? It doesn't look the sort of bike that would benefit from clip-ons and I've never heard of grips doing much.

>>and some lighter wheels....<<
Errr, I doubt those wheels are massivly heavy as it is, infact most 'light' wheels are made for bikes that have a lot more forces going through them so may will be heavier due to teh increased strength.
Do you actually feel that it turns in to slowly? If you have a lot of money or are /really/ pushing a sports bike then they might be a reasonable investment, but the rest of the time it's just a waste of a lot of money.

>>Oh and there is only one downside to this Bike(From ym oppinion)...The front headlight!! It's like a Candle!<<
maybe that would be something worth while changing then Smile.. but watch out because it may kill the battery if you get too high a wattage one.


Sorry, I'm not trying to be critical, it just seems you'd be spend a whole lot of money for hardly any benefit. (Unless it's the styling you're bothered about and you're willing to spend a lot of money on it).

If you aren't looking at passing your test any time soon, personally I'd reccomend getting a test ride on something like a NS125 or old model NSR and seeing what you think. They will be a fair bit quicker than the CLR and have more tuning potential if you want.
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Crazy Manx Man
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

G thanks for the input,

I am big person, 6'4" and 17 stone the brakes can just about handle my weight and the bikes soo it may be worth while doing the brakes

as for the bars, The chrome ones are showing signs of rust, maybe worth going after market if they are going to be replaced, might as well throw in grips too

as for the wheels they would have to be changed if I was going to get a Rear Disc brake as it is a drum at the moment....again being the size i am, I get the feeling they can just about handle what I can throw at them...especially coming down gufrees(sp)

I have every intention on keeping this bike even after passing my test, which I hope to have done before TT 2003, then I'll go for a bigger, newer and faster bike Smile
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few people use the rear brake for slowing down... if you can lock it (I could on my cg and I was 16 stone ish a the time) then you don't need anything better. Still... if you're pushing it usually the only reason to use your rear brake is to scrub a bit off speed of while cranked over.
If you can't make the front stoppie/slide then it might be worth upgrading that.
I can't see the wheels having any serious problems... on my cbt there was a 23 stone bloke on a sr125... the suspension was the only thing that had any major problems.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 13 Dec 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

That and probably the clutch G !!!! Wink
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