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jaguar65uk
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Maintaining NCBs Reply with quote

I have been insured for 2 consecutive years on a bike that is now sold. As I understand it, this means I have 2 years NCBs on my bike licence (as I made no claims).
If I buy a new bike and transfer the policy (it runs out on 26 April) the NCBs will continue to mount up.
Will I be able to keep my 2 years if I am not insured on any bike?
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2 years are valid for 4 years. So if you ended up with 4 years NCB, you would have maximum no claims. But if you then didn't ride for a year, you'd only have 3 years NCB. As it stands though, you can not ride for 2 years, and still have your 2 years NCB.

Hope that makes sense. Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it, does no claims protection extend the default 4 year period?
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it just means that if you make a claim you don't use your no claims.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
No, it just means that if you make a claim you don't use your no claims.


It's also a bit of a scam. Just because you don't lose your no claims, doesn't mean they can't hike your insurance up the next year. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
The 2 years are valid for 4 years. So if you ended up with 4 years NCB, you would have maximum no claims. But if you then didn't ride for a year, you'd only have 3 years NCB. As it stands though, you can not ride for 2 years, and still have your 2 years NCB.

Hope that makes sense. Laughing Thumbs Up



Hi, im an insurance broker, so should be able to make sense of it, the above is wrong

Your NCB normally rates from 1-5 years, 5 being max. If you stop biking for say 1 year, you dont loose any NCB, BUT after 2 years all NCB earnt will be invalid. So if you have max, but stop biking for 3 years, then you have none at the end, and will have to start again from 0.

I think this is right, but im at work now, and cant think straight lol
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any NCB you managed to get is normally valid for a couple of years without a policy. If you're lucky, you might find a company that is more lenient and would accept a break from cars/bikes even longer - but don't count on it. If you go without a policy for more than 2 years, expect to start your NCB friom scratch.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different companies seem to have different rules.

Generally it's around 2 years. If you moan, they may make an exception.

If you're expecting it to be longer than that, could be worth insuring a low group bike for a year to keep it going - infact, sometimes can be worth doing this anyway Smile.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bennyboy wrote:


Hi, im an insurance broker, so should be able to make sense of it, the above is wrong



Maybe you can help me with this, I have 9 years NCB on my bike, I was side swiped on the motorway at the end of last year, luckily I didnt bin the bike but sustained some fairing damage. I called my insurance and they advised me to use my legal protection cover to claim for the damage. My bike was declared a write off but no liability has yet been admitted by the driver.

When i called to renew my insurance recently they asked about accidents etc, they then tried to say that i had no NCB until the outcome of the accident had been decided, I stated I was not claiming through my insurance etc etc. Eventually after lots of arguing the guy phoned back and said ok that's fine, you still have full NCB.

Now what happens if the other guy is (remarkably) found to be at no fault, do i lose my NCB or just part of it or does it not matter because I am claiming through my legal protection?

Are you confused? Because I am!

Apologies to the original thread poster for hijacking Smile
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards to legal protection, im not sure. This generally helps out with compensation for injurys etc. Claiming for whiplash and stuff.

If he was found to be at NO fault in the accidnet, or if you were partially to blame, then you would loose 2 years NCB. Bear in mind though that 9 years isnt technically max, 5 years is the max so you would go down from 5 to 3. This would mean paying about 20% more at renewal, plus any extra premium added for the fact that you were in an accident through fault of your own.

I think that explains it, but ask if you need any more help

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PostPosted: 18:51 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hijack, but I have a NCB question.

I have two bikes on different policies - one has 2 years NCB, the other has 1. I want to put them both onto the same policy. Do I have 3 years NCB in total to use? What happens if I don't claim in the next year, will I have 4 years NCB? And finally, if I sell one bike, what happens to my NCB?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 21 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That won't work, I had 3years on my main bike policy while I also had an additional seperate 1 year on another bike i was insuring seperately, only 2 companies were prepared to add them together to give me 4yrs NCB and their quotes were ridiculous anyway. But as said in another post, it won't work because you could buy 5 C90s, insure them all seperately and have 5yrs NCB after 1 year.

As for the 9yrs NCB going down to 3yrs NCB in event of an accident. That's not exactly true, if she hasn't protected her no claims she'll drop back to zero. If she has protected them it depends entirely on the underwriter, she may drop by 1 or 2years to 3 or not at all. My NCB is protected, but in the event of a fault accident/theft I still maintain my full NCB.
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 26 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Benny. I am not actually claiming for any personal injury. Will see what they come back with from the other guys insurance.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 26 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As stated above by bennyboy your NCB is valid for 2 years after your policy finishes, if you don't use it on a policy in this time then you are likely to have to start from scratch.

There also seems to be some confusion over NCB when you claim. If you make a claim in a policy year and you don't have Protected (or guaranteed in the case of some insurers) and you were partially at fault or the claim is still being dealt with at renewal you will lose 2 years of the NCB you had at the start of the policy term (the amount of people I had to explain that you don't get any NCB for the year if you claim was beyond belief). If the claim is still being dealt with and is settled after your renewal with no fault to you then the company will reinstate any deducted NCB back to your renewal date and adjust your premium accordingly. If you have changed companies they will issue with a new proof of NCB letter.

Protected NCB allows you to make a number of claims in a certain time period without affecting your NCB (either 1 claim per year or 2 claims in 3 years are typical). Guaranteed NCB allows you to make any number of claims without affecting your NCB. With both of these the NCB will not be affected but this doesn't mean that your premium won't change.

Hope this helps

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