SP1 -SP2

[killa]

Can't be arsed reading loads of text.

Whats the difference, which ones better (if at all), thats it....

Killa
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[veeeffarr]

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[craigs23]

Are you referring to VTRs?

Better injectors, tweaks to suspension to make it a better road bike. Arguably better colours.

[SP2Rus]

As craig says, fuel injection improved which makes the throttle less jerky at low speeds. Its still pretty rough compared to an inline four though, so takes a bit of getting used to when riding in town. I fitted a power commander which helped to smooth it out lower down.

The SP2 also has a different swingarm. Having never ridden an SP1 i cant tell you what differences there are in the ride.
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[killa]

Cheers for the info, looking to buy one although some one did tell me at 22 Insurance might laugh at me.

I have over 5 years no claims.
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[RobB]

Not sure an SP1/2 would be a good choice for your next bike. Regardless of no claims, I would think your age, location and licence history will make insurance nearly impossible to get. There will be a lot of companies that won't want to insure it without it being garaged, and I think a fully comp quote will require you getting a mortgage.

Regardless of that, it's a mean bike. Never ridden one myself, but a mates dad had one for a year. He's over 50, been riding all his life, a proper spanner-minded bloke with a love for engines and speed. He got rid of his SP1 after a year because he was positive it would spit him off. He only put just under 1000 miles on in a year (usual milegae being nearer to 10,000). He didn't ride it because it scared the shit out of him, and he wasn't up for that sort of fear/fun on a daily basis.

All that said, it is a bike I'd like to own. Looks beautiful, and the fear factor has ultimately got to be a good sign for the quality of the engine. Even the factory dash made me almost cum when I saw the rev counter light up. I wouldn't pick this bike as my only mode of transport though, and definitely not for a regular commuting tool, it would have to be a luxury. Can't imagine that a traditional British, cold, grey, wet day to be helpful on one of these. Commuting would end up being a tortuous chore, fighting for survival, rather than a journey. I'd also imagine that two-figure speeds would become very boring far too soon.....

Buy this bike, and you'd save time in sending your licence back to Wales the day you pick it up.
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[Gazdaman]

My dad has a similar complex about his VFR800. It's just too quick for him. Even though he's a very very competant ride, he's scared of the power and sportsbike handling I think.

Gaz

[killa]

I appreciate the comments Rob, ta…..never really thought about the power in the conditions.

I’m a fussy git when it comes to bikes and find peoples choices sometimes laughable.
I don’t know why I just can’t seem to imagine myself on something that looks so bland, a friend of mine has a CBR600RR or something to that effect, in blue with that single exhaust thing out that back.
Don’t like it, boring as boring gets and sounds like a black and decker drill and don’t even mention race exhausts.
I like bikes that look awesome and sound good I guess, my VFR sounds like no other I've have seen, I love the ride and I adore the looks, I don’t want to get rid of her but she is getting on.

I saw the VTR and fell in love, it has everything for me, I think an R1 would be too much for me and I also have never met a rider of an R1 I like. I looked down a line of bikes yesterday at the shop and liked the GSXR750 more than the R1 and I don’t really like that. lol

I haven’t ridden a thou in my life but I would bet that in any condition, as long as the bike was in good nick and the setup wasn’t se to race/mad man kind of thing I’d be able to kept he bike on the road.
I’m not fussed about comfort, and as for speed well, I think as time goes by your not going to be able to escape at all soon even when you’re trying your best.
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[Gazdaman]

Do you really want to be "keeping the bike on the road". I.e controlling yourself to keep the bike on the black stuff, rather than riding a smaller bike hard.

I think you summed up kids of 1L bikes with that.

You /think/ if you tried hard, you /could/ keep it on the road.

That's a position I never want to be in.

Gaz

[killa]

But thats also putting words in my mouth Gaz, everyone keeps the bloody bike on the tarmac, it doesnt means its a struggle.

"Do you really think you can ride a smaller bike, i.e. a CBR600 hard int he conditions i mentioned?"

If that were the case the SP1 wouldnt sel fuck all if you tried to ride it normally and it wouldnt let you.
As you know, the throttle goes both ways, i'm just saying in the wet, keeping the bike on road no matter what the capacity depends on more factors than just the rider.
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[numark1]

I was looking at an sp1 to take to uni.

The bikes are pretty expensive compared to most litre bikes.

About 4,500 for a decent low milage one. I was getting quotes of about £1300 tpo at 19 which is what my zx6r was at 17 so insurance isn't too bad.

Bit of a beast on the road though and i don't want to ride 400 miles to and from uni on it as it will be painful and drink fuel.

I can get a return flight for about £70.

[carvell]

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[Dark]

SP2's aren't that much of an animal, they quite tame and very easy to ride i thought.

Haven't ridden an SP1 but i thought the SP2 was a pleasure to ride and i got on with it far better than any Aprilia or Duc.
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[killa]

Quote 1: £1678.10

Quote 2: £8150

WTF!


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[Wave2k]

i was thinking about an SP1/2 in july time, but the tank range is just too crap to live with.

but if thats not a problem and you dont get very far, they sound very nice look very nice.
very sporty feel, sharp on/off throttle and stiff suspention not for the light hearted.
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[killa]

So now i know the SP1 is only feesable when im over 25 or something, and judging by what i like, what would be a good option for a next bike?
The SP1 i think was pricy because of the ins group.
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[Wave2k]

i could have got an SP1 instead of the 750 at around the same price insurance.

but the 750 is a better alrounder and has a few more bhp up top
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[RobB]

What insurance group was it? The fact that it's quite a rare and also expensive bike will also increase the premium. I've been ringing round about the Aprilia Tuono for a few weeks now, and a lot of insurers want it to be garaged or they won't even quote.

What about a VFR750/800? Possibly too bland for your tastes, maybe a race rep 600?
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[Dark]

TL1000 ?
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[acwman]

SP2 ...apparently has smoother fuel-injection.bigger injector throttle bodies, a jazzierrace swingarm , and a few other mods.

Cool looking bike I hear the fuel consumption is not brilliant.
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[riichy]

[V2]

SP-1 / SP-2, they both make me do a sex wee in my pants! i really want one as my next bike but i dont know if funds will stretch!

[SP2Rus]

I have had an SP2 for 6 months now and it is a great bike to own. I am by no means an expert with vast knowledge of bikes, nor am I anything other than an average rider who just enjoysthe thrill of riding a sportsbike, but these are my thoughts and experiences of the SP2.

The downsides are limited tank range, 120 miles to red light if you are riding conservatively. Give it a bit of gas and it can drop to less than 100 before needing a fill up. The riding position is very race orientated and can be uncomfortable on a long ride. However I'm 6ft 2in and do not feel particularly uncomfortable until I've been going for well over an hour. Its a little lumpy, especially at slow speeds round town and in traffic, but then again its not really designed for that! You get used to this after a while and learn to slip the clutch to compensate.

On the plus side, once you get on the open road, it is an absolute joy to ride. The V twin engine produces more than enough power for us mere mortals across most of the rev range. When it gets to 6,500 it starts to take off and you grin like an idiot. Whilst the top end speed and acceleration may not be quite as fast as the in line 4s, in the real world of road riding it is well up to the job. You dont feel like you have to be dancing up and down the gearbox to keep in the powerband, and therefore its less frantic to ride, and imho easier to ride as a result. The bike is heavy (193kg) compared to the blade/R1 etc but when you are on the move it it feels nimble enough, corners like its on rails and the brakes are awesome.

Yes it is a fairly focussed bit of kit, and if your not then it can end up putting you in a world of hurt. But I think that applies to any modern sportsbike these days. Ive ridden other litre plus bikes, but the SP2 is the one that I enjoyed the most. The character of the V twin engine, the sound, the look of the bike put it all together...........and brewers sex wee description becomes a reality.......
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