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mirax
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: chain adjusting noob :) Reply with quote

off to mayday tomoz and need to adjust my chain as it can be pushed upto the swing arm Confused how do u messure the slack on the chain aparantly in the manual it says 15-25mm of free play!! i dont have a clue as i never adjust it myself, normally get garage to do it Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Measure how far the chain moves up and down.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: chain adjusting noob :) Reply with quote

mirax wrote:
off to mayday tomoz and need to adjust my chain as it can be pushed upto the swing arm Confused how do u messure the slack on the chain aparantly in the manual it says 15-25mm of free play!! i dont have a clue as i never adjust it myself, normally get garage to do it Embarassed


General stuff here.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=13574
Then follow your manual. It should have a page on how to adjust the chain.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the slack on the chain should be on average about 20mm.

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and should only take ya 10 mins to do

whilst ya at it ya may as well lube ya chain Razz
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Re: chain adjusting noob :) Reply with quote

mirax wrote:
off to mayday tomoz and need to adjust my chain as it can be pushed upto the swing arm Confused how do u messure the slack on the chain aparantly in the manual it says 15-25mm of free play!! i dont have a clue as i never adjust it myself, normally get garage to do it Embarassed


At the midpoint of the chain along the lower run, measure the distance that the chain can move (stretch it down, then stretch it up, each time measuring to the top of the chain, then calculate the difference). For your bike, 15-25mm is the range (mine is 25-35mm). My manual states to measure it with the bike on the side stand - yours might be different.

https://motorcyclistonline.com/howto/0112MC_photo7_zoom.JPG

If the measurement is within your range, leave it alone. If it's out, adjust it as per the manual. You'll want a socket wrench and the correct sized socket (and possibly a breaker bar, if it's tight) to undo it and a torque wrench and a new split pin when you come to tighten it back up.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a manual... anyone got any rough guesses as to how tight mine should be? 'Tis a 125cc Gilera Coguar.

Also... do you just tighten the chain by unbolting the rear wheel and moving it back, or is there another way to do it (don't laugh... I'm a newbie!)?

Where would be the best place to look for an aftermarket, bolt-on, centre stand? If you can get them... Its just working on my bike would be easier with a centre stand... I wouldn't have to roll the bike round the patio to oil the chain then either!

Would get a paddock stand... but I reckon I can do the work I need to do with a centre stand anyway... and I despise side stands... and that’s what I have on my bike!
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it the distance it travels from the hanging postion pushing up as far as it goes ???
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, on my bike you unbolt the rear wheel and then carefully adjust it via the adjuster bolts that stick out of the end of the swing arm. Make sure that the rear wheel is aligned properly.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirax wrote:
so it the distance it travels from the hanging postion pushing up as far as it goes ???


The distance the top of the chain travels from the fully pulled down position to the fully pushed up position, measured halfway between the front and the back sockets (worth moving the bike a bit and measuring a couple of times, in case you have any stiff links).
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aligning it with a good old plant of wood yeah?

Think I'll have to have a good butchers hook at it tomorrow

EDIT: Just to let you all know... I think I've flipped... I meant a plank of wood, not a plant... I need some more sleep!


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PostPosted: 22:03 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent cheers guys will have a go tomoz before i set off Smile
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Chain adjusting Reply with quote

Most bikes seem to be between 20mm and 35mm although my R1 recommends 40mm to 50mm. I find it better to have it a bit looser rather than to tight Wink , noticed on some bikes the chain tightens a hell of a lot when sat on.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont get me wrong I am NOT flaming anyone here!!!

On a car test you have to learn maintanence basics. Its about time they did it on bikes too!

Chain slack if done wrong can shag a gearbox or even cause an accident. Yet I bet even on this forum there are Hundreds that don't know basic maintanence(be Honest). How many do checks on their bike before they ride it? Tyre pressures, Brakes, Lights, chain condition..Etc.

Yet the Twats in government want to restrict power (further) to new riders. It would be much better to teach new riders how to look after the bike. ???? Thumbs Up Thumbs Down ????
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:11 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My user manual just says the distance between the swinger and the chain when it's lifted up(15mm), but i'm sure i'm getting chain slap.

Different bikes have different mechanisms for adjusting the chain tension, but the net result is sliding the wheel back unless you have an automatic tensioner.

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PostPosted: 20:59 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never measured how much slack there is in my chain. Always just guess, never had any problems.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aligning it with a good old plank of wood yeah?


Could anyone go into a bit more detail on aligning the rear wheel?

How accurate does it have to be? Karma
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DukeRed wrote:
Step 1 - Look down the front of the bike
and align both edges of the front tyre and
see how much rear is poking out either side
move the front wheel until there is an even
amount of rear on each side.

Step 2 - Look from the rear and align the front edge or the rear tyre with the back edge of the front tyre. Do the same on the other side. If it not aligned properly you will be able to see more of the side of the rear wheel from one view. (You want to be able to see the same amount of side of the rear wheel from both sides.)

Step 3 - Adjust.

Step 4 - Repeat 1 -2 and if neccesary 3.


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PostPosted: 22:29 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Re: chain adjusting noob :) Reply with quote

mirax wrote:
i dont have a clue as i never adjust it myself, normally get garage to do it Embarassed


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PostPosted: 22:46 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Dont get me wrong I am NOT flaming anyone here!!!

On a car test you have to learn maintanence basics. Its about time they did it on bikes too!

Chain slack if done wrong can shag a gearbox or even cause an accident. Yet I bet even on this forum there are Hundreds that don't know basic maintanence(be Honest). How many do checks on their bike before they ride it? Tyre pressures, Brakes, Lights, chain condition..Etc.

Yet the Twats in government want to restrict power (further) to new riders. It would be much better to teach new riders how to look after the bike. ???? Thumbs Up Thumbs Down ????



Erm what? Confused

I was shown how to do my chain during my CBT, along with a few other important maintenance bits and bobs.

Thought this would have been the same for whole country?
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 03 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was shown the basics too. On the test you are asked how you would check the oil and brake fluid etc.

But bikes generally need much more looking after than your average car and having a clean bike could save your life.

I think they should emphasise the importance of maintenance as some people might just expect the bike to go from service to service like most people do with their cars.
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