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PostPosted: 03:09 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: CBR600RR advice Reply with quote

MY NSR150RR is gone...long story but irrelevant..i wont be seein that again

was gonna go down the bank on tuesday, to hopefully get a £4000 loan

Will then be looking to get a '03+ 600RR ASAP! (dream bike!)

been riding the 150 for bout 6monthes, never sat on a big bike b4 tho, let alone ride one, wanted to buy privately hopefully not too far away coz ill need to drive it back to my house so i need to find one a maximum of 200 miles from glasgow

a) im confident on my NSR, could you lot post your expierinces of moving from a small bike on to a bigger one, and let me know how you think il get on? specialy if i have to endure a long distance drive as soon as i get on, ive drove on motorways many times b4, so there no obstacle. (also im a very. sensible rider...paranoid and very untrusting of cages tht is!)

b) And do you think i will be eligible for a loan like that, when i am 18, living at home, part time job racking in about £250 a month, ive never had any other financial commitment so i presume i dont have a bad credit rating

Keeping up with payments shouldt be problem.as i will find a full time job aswell soon, i jus reallly wana know if il be eligible at the moment.

Could i please jus get answer to a) b) any other comments/opnions/factors are considered OFFTOPIC!

Thanyou to EVERYONE who posts a relevant answer...good post ratings all round!
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

weight, acceloration, power and good brakes are the only differance i noticed

i went from a nsr125 to a gixxer srad 600
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found the step up from a 125 disappointingly easy. i went to an sv 650. main difference was the strength of the engine braking. all the rest was reletively predictable. quicker, more weight, etc...

you may struggle for the loan though. plus insurance will rape you. they will probably say come back when you have a full time job. sorry but i dont think you have a hope Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 10:26 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have to get a parent or guardian to sign as a guarantor on your loan because of age/circumstances.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a 4k loan from my bank no problem when I was your age. As long as you're working full time anyway.

It's a cracking bike, had a go on one last week and loved it!

Prepare to pay a fortune on insurance though. Sad
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So thats £2500 for the bike, £1500 for the insurance. Confused

(You won't find an RR for £2500)

If your looking just for the bike for £4k, to be perfectly honest, you'd be mad. Not because you can't handle the power, but financially it could finish you.

You would be far better buying something cheaper if your having to take out a loan.

1 trip down the road on it's side, and your financially crippled. Plus, you'll be paying off the loan for at least 2-3 years so if you put it a hedge bottom after 3 weeks and write it off, you have no vehicle, no money to buy another, plus your still paying the £4k back. (You'll never find fully comp insurance at your age on that bike for a workable price)

I'd think long and hard. I don't want to put a downer on your dreams, but the bike will still be available in a few years after getting some cash behind you.

The 600rr is a very modern, focussed bike, and insurance is very high for a reason, a lot will be crashed by young and/or inexperienced riders like yourself. You may think a year or so riding on the road makes your fairly competant, it doesn't. I've been on the road 10 years, and your constantly learning. My Zx6r scares the shit out of me at times.

If you've got plenty of disposable cash then I'd say give it a go, but taking out a £4k loan could end tits up very quickly.

It also won't be cheap to run, expect a pair of £175 tyres to last no longer than 2000 miles.

If your intent on a 600 sports bike, I'd consider something older for about £2k. You should pick up a good example for that sort of cash from any of the cbr600/zx6r/r6/thundercat/gsxr group.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a CBR600RR 05, and I am 28 had a full bike licence for 10 years and got 5 years NCB and the insurance fully comp for me last year was £780, its gone down to £520... TPFT was only £50 cheaper than those.... You would get a decent one for £4000, but then insurance will be a massive hit in the pocket as previous posters have said.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanx guys, dont worry bout insurance, its been dealt with, was rly jus lookin for the bike itself

im gonna go down the bank tomorow, and il let you know how i get on, if they turn me down i better get cracking on finiding a full time job, but i want...no .. NEED that bike ASAP, refuse to take the bus! and i cant stop thinkin bout that bike...... mmmmmmm
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banks aren't always the best place to go for loans, have a look here Moneysupermarket; it'll give you a good comparison.

Have you got a decent quote for insurance then? I wouldn't try to convince you out of the RR, but what I would say is think with your head not your heart. Listen to what people are saying to you here, some have already been there and done that and are speaking from experience. On the road something like the CBR600F or Sport is worth considering as you won't find too much difference in performance and they'll be easier to live with.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i apreciate the advice...and deepdown i think i will regret it in the long run
i fancied the R6, but that can is horrendous! :o

maybe i should gofor a cheaper bike, but i defo do want sumin 2000+

im lookin for a bike asap, and the RR was what i thot i wanted, if you can make any better recomendations, il highly consider them

But if im gonna regret anything,let it be an RR Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
On the road something like the CBR600F or Sport is worth considering as you won't find too much difference in performance and they'll be easier to live with.


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Not saying you're the same but we quite often get someone come on and ask what everyone thinks of ****** bike in their situation, then don't listen to what people say. When in reality what they should have said was I'm buying one of these, what colour should I get? Wink

At the end of the day, it's up to you and you'll do what you want, but sometimes regrets can also turn into relief.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may sound like im pouring my heart out right now...but have been going threw a bad time las few years, got me pretty depressed, the only thing that kept me with a smile on my face instead of walkin round a like a zombie, was the NSR

spose im really acting on rage due to having lost the NSR, i jus want my joy back..and thers no point buying another 2stroke racer, as it is only a stepping stone

could call it an early life crisis, but i rly dont want/need anything else at the moment another than a bike, and if that makes me happy i should go 4 it dont ya think?

i know theres more to life than bikes, but at the mo id empty all my pockets for one
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, I'm not saying don't buy another bike, just don't financially wipe yourself out when you can get just as much enjoyment for cheaper.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wont look as hot as the double R tho will it? Wink

if bikes were women.......you can see why i want that high maintanence b*tch
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrh, but cheap women are more dirty. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate get a RVF 400.

more power than your NSR, they were made up to 1998 I think, you can can them pretty cheap for a decent condition one also.

Just my opinion of course Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

RI_HA wrote:
mate get a RVF 400.

more power than your NSR, they were made up to 1998 I think, you can can them pretty cheap for a decent condition one also.

Just my opinion of course Thumbs Up


CHEAP? Razz
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
RI_HA wrote:
mate get a RVF 400.

more power than your NSR, they were made up to 1998 I think, you can can them pretty cheap for a decent condition one also.

Just my opinion of course Thumbs Up


CHEAP? Razz


I suppose cheap is an opinion. Razz

ok ok. 2k upwards. i would say that was pretty cheap. but thats of course my opinion. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I've never ridden anything other then a 125 moped, bought a 00 R6 a few days ago, just been riding it around my lil' carpark until i'm insured, so can't really share expierences with you but i did read that the R6 didn't like to go slow, no diffrence in going slow on that & my test cg 125 if you don't whack the throttle open, nice & smooth. Seeing that you have owned a motorcycle you should be fine. You will be fine on the ride home if you do buy, i got used to the position & throttle right away & that's coming from somone who's never ridden before lol.

As for the loan it would be a pain if somthing was to happen to it & you would be left paying off for a bike you don't have (Touch wood nothing will) Or you needed to sell for some reason.

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PostPosted: 10:45 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if they turn me down i better get cracking on finiding a full time job


If they give you a loan your going to need a full time job!

Lets say you borrow 4K over 2 years, thats around £220 a month.

You earn £250 a month. That gives you £30 a months for tyres, petrol, servicing, insurance (I hope to swetbaby jesus your not taking into account insurance costs because your not going to bother Neutral ), social money, phone bills, clothes......

There are bikes out there just as nice, just as capable for half what you want to pay.

Everyone on this forum has dreams about what bike they actually want to own, but realistically going to the bank for a loan to get it isn't the best way to go about things. In a years time you might think a 999r is your dream bike......

At the end of the day, only you know if you can afford it. And if you do get it, make sure you get your moneys worth Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx again for the advice, seems like i will have problems getin this loan, jus spoke to them on the phone....

anyway, there is a possibility still, so i got an appointment booked for 2morow at 12:15, to try an convince them to give me it

im gonna go for the 5 year plan, which is only £100 a month, in the long run it will rape me, but they said i can reduce my terms, and i will reduce it to 12monthes as soon as i go full-time.

im really serious about this, and do respect the fact tht ppl come on here all the time and say
"got cash to splash, wat bike shall i get?".......... either there attention seekers, or they jus want to share there joy of a posssiblity of a new bike and dont have enuff ppl to tell

i suppose my main uses of the bike are gonna be like anyone elses

1) General commuting to work
2) Driving into town to see the g/f
3) weekly (since now there weathers on our side) trips/rides to places such as the beach or whatever
4) would also like to go to europe on it at some point in the summer aswell

ive considered other bikes, such as as the CBR600F Sport, and the R6......... but my god that Double R is SEXY!

EDIT : Anyone know any good places to look for CBR's for sale apart from autotrader and ebay, im sure theres more, my memory fails me
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) General commuting to work
2) Driving into town to see the g/f
3) weekly (since now there weathers on our side) trips/rides to places such as the beach or whatever
4) would also like to go to europe on it at some point in the summer aswell


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A FIVE YEAR LOAN!!

Your 18, have no money, have little road experience, and you want a 600rr motorbike for the above.

An Ariel Atom is a sexy 4-wheeler, but I wouldn't want 1 as an everyday vehicle!!!!

I give up Exclamation
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you'll have many problems transferring to a 600 ffrom an NSR as long as you take it fairly steady at first, concentrate and keep an open mind.

It seems that a lot of people are making the leap from small bikes to a large capacity bikes pretty quickly nowadays and taking the classic root of progressing through the cc's.

I do try to keep an open opinion on this, but sometimes i think its putting a lot of responsibity on a young head.

Mind you the main reason i made a slowish progression through the cc's was because thats all i could afford at the time.

So if you can afford it, then go for it, and good luck. The grin factor on an RR will last for months!
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i will reduce it to 12monthes as soon as i go full-time


ill probly start off with the 5 year, jus to get me threw my 1st few monthes, but rly i hav no intentions of keepin this loan for longer than 2 years

what i was rly sayin when i listed them uses, was "is this bike suited to that?"

Need Advice not critisism

and if this isnt the bike for me...someone please convince me otherwise, or point me to a difernt bike, and convince me why i should have that one, other than "its cheap" or if its got a nasty can, tell me about a zorst can that i can put on to replace it

quick!...if i get this loan tomorow you'l only have a few days for the check to come threw where i will alredy be onmy way to get th CBR RR
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 02 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike is capable of doing what you want it to do and will do for as long as its properly maintained.

But i'll emphasise that a CBR600RR is not really a commuting type of bike, and lots of miles in all weather will just add to your growing maintenance costs.

As i said before, if you can afford it then go for it.
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