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 Posted: 12:39 - 05 May 2006 Post subject: Emergency stop |
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Please can somebody who has recently done their bike test tell me the correct procedure for the emergency stop and what to do once you have come to a stand????
Test on Monday and panicking now. Cheers. |
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really?
I remember it as being once stopped , double shoulder check left and right since your in the middle of the road. put into 1st , final shoulder check and pull in next to the kerb , since it was dangerous to stay in the middle of the road. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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But it's still technically done before you move off again  |
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| mr.z |
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If the rear wheel does lock up dont freak out, just let it off and reapply, did this on my test and it was perfectly fine.
But as other have said, if you miss your observations before pulling off youll fail instantly! ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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 Posted: 13:43 - 05 May 2006 Post subject: |
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Stand up, lean over handle bars, gentle push the front back till the rear wheel lifts up, keep it going as long as you can whilst heading towards your instructor, then stretch your left arm out and point at him.
Or
You just brake hard without locking up, simple. Go fast but dont go stupidly fast, theres no point except for making it harder for you  |
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You doing Direct Access? The reason I ask is that a larger machine usually has a better front brake than a 125 learner machine. Easy way to do the emergency stop is to use a progressive squeezed on front brake and only touch the rear. A modern bike will do most of it's braking with the front without much rear and this way you won't lock the rear. They do tend to like seeing the rear applied though, hence the dab on the foot brake. Don't grab at the brakes either, a controlled slightly longer braking period is better than a snatched uncontrolled slide.
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Don't pull the clutch in, you lot sure?
If he's on a 125, he'll be going down at least 2 gears from 30mph anyway.
I've never heard of engine braking having to be used on test, my old car instructor used to bollock me for doing it. |
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Said it before, saying it again. This worked for me.
The back wheel goes stupidly light and easy to lock if you hammer on the front brake and let your weight shift forwards. I practiced locking my arms straight as I put on the front brake and as soon as they were I rested my foot on the rear, didn't press and squeezed in the clutch at the last possible second.
Locking my arms out kept my head up (and looking at the examiner) and kept my weight further back on the bike. When I tapped on the rear at the end the back end didn't lock. If you hit a stone or a seam in the tarmac with the rear whilst doing the E-stop then it is enough to lose traction and lock that rear up. I personally couldn't feel whether it was locked or not unless it started to go sideways on me...
Saying the phrase also stopped me leaping straight onto all the brakes as I had done during DAS.
This sounds daft, but here's my technique...
1.Come round corner, get bike into 3rd and keep hands off levers.
2.His hand goes up.
3.Say to self "Lock my arms" whilst squeezing on the front brake, closing the throttle and pushing back on the bars to keep the weight back and arms straight.
4.Once you've said it, your arms will be straight. Move foot across onto rear brake and rest it on it GENTLY.
5.Bring it to a halt without adding pressure onto the rear, keeping your head up and looking at the examiner.
6.When the bike feels like it is fighting the brake, pull in the clutch. Whilst the clutch is out, the engine will keep the rear turning and help to prevent it locking. If the clutch is pulled in too early then the slightest rear brake action will lock it up.
7.Bring her to a stop.
8.Get her to the kerb with lifesavers and checks etc.
9.Out of gear and switch off.
10.Relax.
When practicing on CBT I Went on the front brake, the clutch and managed to open the throttle up more... The bike screamed as it came to a stop with tons of revs. My instructor said, "That little kid will never step out into the road without looking again as you've scared the Sh1t out of him." .
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| maurice wrote: | Don't pull the clutch in, you lot sure?
If he's on a 125, he'll be going down at least 2 gears from 30mph anyway.
I've never heard of engine braking having to be used on test, my old car instructor used to bollock me for doing it. |
Woah there.. you dont go down your box when your doing an emergancy stop! You just stop.. quick!
If you go through the box, you WILL fail.
When he raises his hand, just apply brakes.. slow down.. keep slowing down.. when about to stop, pul the clutch in to stop engine from stalling. Select Neutral and wait.
He will tell you if he wants you to wait for furhter instructions or if he wants you to move to side of road.. before you start the emergeny stop.
But yeah, DO NOT TOUCH YOUR GEARS!
Little story for you.
When i was practising mine, i jumped too hard on the front brake. It had just started to drizzle so was slippery. Front washed out, and the bike was about 50degrees over to the left out of control.. literally about to dump it down the road.
When i let go of brake, steered the other way and some how picked the bike up from what should have been a low slide.
The instructor was gobsmacked.. he said to me "ive never seen that before, you should have hit the deck... good riding!"
The whole thing lasted no more than about 2 seconds from me pulling the brake to me finally stopping th bike.
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[quote="getyerkneedown]
I was told that the pushing thing is to prove to you that the bike will in fact turn a U turn on that road whilst at full lock in the space given...[/quote]
still pointless then , my instructor rode a Pan and he could turn that tighter than I could , he once took out his victory cruiser and could turn it almost as tight as the Pan .
that said somebody might take the piss and bring a proper chopper like those seen in that film with Jack Nicohson (Easy rider?) , or an Orange county chopper. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 69 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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