Getting a 125,

[ncrn]

Hi, its my 17th birthday in just over a week now, and I'm planning to sell on my 50cc scooter and get a bigger bike.

The problem is I'm a bit lost as to what I should get, I've researched about the laws on what I can buy and I understand I can get a 125cc straight away, or I could get a bigger bike thats been restricted down to 33bhp after I've past my test.

I am thinking it would be better for me to get a 125 first so I get used to having a bike with gears.

Ive looked about and found 3 bikes that seem to stand out to me (all hondas) the cbr and nsr and also the cg. They all look good but Im not sure whats best for me, I like the look of the nsr the most, but also find the cg appealing.

Mostly I will be using the bike to get to 6th form daily, but i also like riding about just for fun, I am hoping to get a fast bike as I love going fast.

So can anyone help me choose? Or do they have any better bikes they think I should go for?

thanks :)

[Itchy]

NSR125 = fast 2stroke , not so reliable up to 90MPH (alledgely) bad on fuel needs 2 stroke oil looks cool (for a 125)discountinued.

CG125 = slow 4 stroke , indestructable , except to TobyR who seems to emit a mobile EMP field which destroys anything in range. Post 2004 = front disc ,drum brakes are crap.

60MPH top end (with a tail wind down hill with JATO rockets attached to its arse) apparently cept toby's which does 50mph, does v good MPG

CBR125 = more or less a CG in tarts clothing replacement of the NSR , 4 stroke so not too fast 65mph top speed ,£££ ins (comparative) looks 100 mph faster than it really is.
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[veeeffarr]

Lol fook off, it's not that knackered

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[tribal_tiger]

Like I say, they just never stop!I changed the oil at 15K miles. It got nicked at around 20K miles, everything was still original, chain, spark plug everything! Ran like a dream!

CG copies are a whole different ball game! Cheap as chips but more temperamental than a ginger on rag week!
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[ncrn]

how fast would a gc run de-restricted?

Im trying to avoid buying an import bike, as i hear they fall apart after a while, and arent easy to sell on.

[fire]

maybe you should get a cbr, seems to suit your needs...but make sure you never ride a NSR until you get something faster, becuase you will beat urself up over regret, until you get another bike!

becuase speakin from expierirnce..i test rode my mates CBR125, and it felt like a toy compared to the NSR.

If your a realy dedicated biker, id go for the NSR,its not that unreliable compared to a RS or a Mito....but it is unreliable compared to the likes of a CG.....

If you jus want a cool run around b4 you earning enuff to finance a car, go for the CBR

but make sure you have a well payed job, becoz your gonna be empty'in the pockets for this one (NSR)

its a known fact... bikers spend 75% of there income on there bikes, and 2strokers spend 95% <<< theres a thread on it somewhere on here

but no matter what you spend...in the end it will all be worth it..every1 misses there 125 2stroke days!
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[jay_666]

its a 4-stroke, so its not restricted
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[ncrn]

im not really looking to get a car, i want something that will do until I can move onto a much larger bike.

I wouldnt mind having to do repairs on the bike if things started going wrong, would be inconvinient but id enjoy it.

the whole two stroke thing doesnt bother me that much, i never notice the smell and the oil isnt that inconvinient, as i have been dealing with it for a year now.

so i am thinking the nsr is a good idea,

[stinkwheel]

The CBR is a different motor to the CG in several fundamental ways that I wont bore you with. The CBR one being considerably more refined and modern (and therefore more complex). There is little to choose between them performance-wise (the CBR is probably a wee bit faster).

I'll just make a couple of points:

1) A cg125 costs £650 pounds less than a CBR125 brand new.

2) Drop a CG125 at 10mph, kick the footpeg straight, replace the clutch lever and carry on your way. (cost, £7)

Drop a CBR125 at 10mph, break the fastenings on six seperate pieces of fairing plastic, scuff the paint, break two flashers and the clutch lever. (cost, £200+ depending on which plastics need replacing).
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[Chiz]

NSR for the win!

CBR: slow, too skinny (have a look at one in the flesh), pointless-cg with posh clothes on,

CG: excellent for its job-getting around reliably, cheaply and until time runs out,

NSR: looks good, goes well, handles well, can actually overtake cars (unlike above)

EDIT: I am slightly biased though!

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[tribal_tiger]

Ask anyone, after World War 3 the only thing alive on the earth will be cockroaches riding CG's.

And mine did 130MPG! Can't loose!
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[ncrn]

the cg sounds good, but im not sure if its really the bike for me because i am looking for something that will go fast. which the nsr sounds better for, although i imagine the mpg on an nsr isnt great?

[Noggin]

My NSR was the best bike in the world...

Well, I loved learning to ride on it anyway. The advantage that it does have over the other two is that it feels like a bike much larger than a 125. This gives you a better road presence. The fact its a two stroke means that if you pass your test on it, you can derestrict it after your test if you can't afford a bigger bike straight away. I'm glad I had it, I had no reliability problems, never changed the chain and sprockets etc. I did change the plug once, and you have to make sure you use top quality oil just in case anything was to happen.

I love that bike, I loved the power band and the joy I got from pushing it as fast as I could with everything taken into consideration. I did one high speed run with me tucked right behind the screen, low fuel, down a hill, with the wind behind me... I loved trying to get the most from the bike, it was a great learning tool.

This thread's making me want to get rid of my R6.... well, not quite!


Craig G(Noggin)
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Old Bike: honda NSR 125 1998

[MaddMikk]

I own a CBR 125, completely standard and it has recieved a lot of stick from other bikers.

Those who say it only does 60mph need to actually ride one. I have got to a respectable 77-80 mph in perfect conditions (i.e. 99 ron petrol, no wind, good road surface and hugging the tank) and about 74-ish in normal conditions (honest truth).

Granted, it's no Aprilia RS125 but then I wouldn't pay that much for a 125 anyway. It replaced the NSR because of 2-stroke unreliability, apparently (although I do like NSRs).

As for the skinny tyres, I had my rear tyre replaced after a puncture from the standard 100/80 to a more chunky 110 Continental - the difference was surprising and it does look so much better. Any more than that would add weight.

Anyway, the top selling bike for two years must be doing something right. I think those who liken it to a CG are being just a little bit snobby.

Rant over.
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[Jenks]

I used a CBR on my CBT, i found it a quite comfortable bike to use and very easy to get the hang of.
Which i think is why they use them for the CBT?
But to be as honest as i can, i haven't been on another bike.

[code guru]

if u whant speed get an nsr mate , i am sure a restricted nsr will beat any off them and if u whant u can derestrict your nsr 2 around 24 bhp giveing it a top speed off around 100 mph with some crazy acceleration unlike 4t. but its a 2t so u will have 2 pay the price in looking after it, regular services, top quality 2t oil ect

[ncrn]

ive been running a 2 stroke for nearly a year now so i know what the costs are and I can live with them, the oil doesnt bother me to much however i do hate it when i spill the stuff it does make quite a mess.

[karen_moomin]

The limited help I can offer with your decision is that I had an NSR for my first bike, and did struggle with it a bit. I found that 4 strokes are much easier to control, especially when it comes to hill starts!

Also NSR's tend to be more expensive, although they do tend to hold their value.

I have recently sold my NSR and intend to get a 4 stroke for my next learner bike until I am confident to take my test.

However, you mention you want something that goes fast...well I think you will be impressed with the NSR on that respect, and they look good, of course.

[Noggin]

Right, you seem to have no problem with running a 2stroke, so I'd advise going for the NSR. It offers that bit more character than a 4stroke, is a bit more of a laugh and it is possible to do your test on it!

I did, in my over 2 years of riding, I have had only one day of training which was my cbt. I went out and practiced with my dad and a mate of mine for a couple of days before each test (2 of them) and then did my test and passed second time round! The U-turn was a bit of a pig, but everything else was ok.

I'm only promoting the NSR because of its character and the fact that it will do the same as everything else you're looking at with a bit more of a fun factor attached.

I feel that it gave me a good standing for when I upgraded to the R6. I was used to a slightly bigger bike and then I had less problems getting on my new baby!


Craig G(Noggin)
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Old Bike: honda NSR 125 1998