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 lee125 World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 17:01 - 28 May 2006 Post subject: which paint should i use? |
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hi soon i will be spraying my fairing on my nsr125 and i was wanting to know which paint is the best to use.should i use cellulose paint or normal spray paint i am gonna use a compressor whith a spray gun if cellulose paint is the best to do it so which would be best to use thanks ____________________ cbt passed 01/07/2006 bike:92 dt 125 and 96 honda cr 250
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MATT BLACK /beats stinkwheel to it..
Theres a fair few guides on here on how to paint with rattle cans and other methods so its worth doing a search.. i think allot of it is the prep work really, try and do a qick nasty job and you'll end up with a nasty result  ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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 gimpy limp Nearly there...

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i've gotten really good results from using the cheap 6 quid rattle cans from places like motorworld. Even the laqcuer they do is pretty durable and easy to apply - saves all the hassle and messing with getting the compressor out (I've used 1 and a half rattle cans to do a tank in the past).
Just so long as you don't use 2 pack without an air fed suit both tins of celly with a compressor or rattle cans will be just as good imo.
I would be more concerned about where you spray it, i've done it outside and in the garage dozens of times with no problems so long as you make sure the air isn't cold (it'll run and you can get orange peel in the lacquer) and not to hot so that it drys before it hits the panel (summer you'll also get nats and lil flying things getting in the paint).
If your doing it at home put carboard all over the ground your working on and wet it with a hose an hour before you spray so that all the dust in the air drops down onto it (sounds strange but really does work). ____________________ -=[Sam/b]=- cx500's the only way to travel, we do it in style just like jimmy saville
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 gimpy limp Nearly there...

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preparing the panel generally speaking I would usually go 800 grit wet paper then apply the primer in 2 coats then 1200 grit (any scratches i nthe primer will usually show in the paint at that stage), then apply the paint and lacquer with no sanding in between that stage. After that you lightly wet sand the lacquer with 1200 (avoid scratches) then seal it with a coat of wax ____________________ -=[Sam/b]=- cx500's the only way to travel, we do it in style just like jimmy saville
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thanks for the replys everyone any more info would be appreciated thanks  ____________________ cbt passed 01/07/2006 bike:92 dt 125 and 96 honda cr 250
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If you're going to use Hammerite, make sure you do many thin coats, rather than few thick ones. I did the latter on my numberplate bracket, made a right dog's dinner of it. There were drips everywhere and it took an absolute age to dry (1-2 days for a coat! only meant to be 4 hours). In the end I scraped it off with a paint scraper, and it was still sticky then! Although it did give the bracket a nice waterproof'd feeling  |
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oh btw if you are changing the colour (red bike avatar and matt black suggestions) don't forget to tell the DVLA , them guys are nazis in disguise and will jump at any opportunity to screw you over . ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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i am gonna tell them other wise if i crash the insurance company wont pay out  ____________________ cbt passed 01/07/2006 bike:92 dt 125 and 96 honda cr 250
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2 pack paint gives a lovely deep shine but its lethal stuff, cellulose rattle cans can actually give a half decent finish regardless of wwhat some purists (particularly americans) may tell you. Be careful on the tank though. Cellulose laquer gets raped by fuel.
Since when have insurance companies asked the colour of your bike? they never do..... ____________________ Bluespark Automotive - Diesel Tuning for Performance and Economy |
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| Titz wrote: | Look at my avitar. That paint job was done completely with about 40 quids worth of paint and primer. If you want to do it all black, 6 cans of 500ml gloss black simonize spraycan will do it. Prepare the FUCK out of the surfaces otherwise any impediments WILL show through. Hence, ensure that your primer is level and be very patient. GO through the grades starting with 400 to remove the lacquer up to 800. Then apply the primer - my mistake here was my spraygun got jammed and the primer sprayed all onto the fairings, so i had to thin it down and apply with a brush. More sanding down with 400-800 grit to get it even and smoothed off with 1200. Spray even, very light coats and wait to dry for about 20 mins before wet sanding it with 1200 grit. Give it another 2 coats and it should do the trick. Final layer, 1200 grit the panels down and if you want to lacquer, you may, but i found the matt finish on the simoniz very good.
Also, do not mix top coats with base coat paints as they will chemically react. I beileve standard paints are acrylic too as what the guys at Hex Holdings told me.
Good luck, do it on a sunny day. |
I'm impressed, I don't think I've ever seen so much incorrect advice in one post before. I think you deserve a bonus point for misusing "impediments" in such style tho. |
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Mate you got to appreciate that none of us have the the ability to hire out a paint shop to do the work ourselves and i've seen decent results, i aint saying professional, but decent home attempts based on the advice given to me. If you're expecting spectacular results, by all means take your bike to the nearest professional shop, but here in the UK, decent ones are few and far between. Put short, none of us are that bothered. If anybody wants to improve the looks of the bike for a fraction of the price, then by all means just do what i did. It'll hurt you less if you bin your bike knowing you only spent 40 quid on painting and repairing as opposed to a mint 200 quid + job at your local auto body repair shop. We all know you're the biz when it comes to painting and spraying, but frankly, we'll need more practical and plausible options to suit our budget. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but i have read most of your posts regarding preparation and respraying and they are indeed helpful, but there are obviously other ways. ____________________ The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
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sorry for slightly hi-jacking the thread, but should carbon fibre be prepared the same way as plastic? Want to paint my battered hugger  ____________________ TL1000s, KDX200 |
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if i use spray cans will it scratch easily or should i put alot of layers on? ____________________ cbt passed 01/07/2006 bike:92 dt 125 and 96 honda cr 250
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| ZRX61 wrote: | | Titz wrote: | Look at my avitar. That paint job was done completely with about 40 quids worth of paint and primer. If you want to do it all black, 6 cans of 500ml gloss black simonize spraycan will do it. Prepare the FUCK out of the surfaces otherwise any impediments WILL show through. Hence, ensure that your primer is level and be very patient. GO through the grades starting with 400 to remove the lacquer up to 800. Then apply the primer - my mistake here was my spraygun got jammed and the primer sprayed all onto the fairings, so i had to thin it down and apply with a brush. More sanding down with 400-800 grit to get it even and smoothed off with 1200. Spray even, very light coats and wait to dry for about 20 mins before wet sanding it with 1200 grit. Give it another 2 coats and it should do the trick. Final layer, 1200 grit the panels down and if you want to lacquer, you may, but i found the matt finish on the simoniz very good.
Also, do not mix top coats with base coat paints as they will chemically react. I beileve standard paints are acrylic too as what the guys at Hex Holdings told me.
Good luck, do it on a sunny day. |
I'm impressed, I don't think I've ever seen so much incorrect advice in one post before. I think you deserve a bonus point for misusing "impediments" in such style tho. |
if that is the wrong way to do it could you tell me the better way thanks  ____________________ cbt passed 01/07/2006 bike:92 dt 125 and 96 honda cr 250
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Hi, use 2 pack spray. Little bit dangerous but gives superb results. I have sprayed dozens of bikes with the stuff with just a cartridge mask, Dan ____________________ Don't ride it, RAG IT!! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 270 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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