That bit of paper with your restriction on.

MementoMori · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Karma :

For those of you whose bikes are restricted, you'll be familiar with that bit of paper you need that says it's restricted and has your details on. Mine was blue, dunno if that's universal but if that helps then... it's blue.

Does anyone have the number of the place that you ring that sorts this stuff out? It's written on that form.

The bike shop dropped mine off at my dad's work but the reception bloke has lost it.

If anyone could get me that number, I'd appreciate it very much.

Thanks.
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Josh · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

The FI international number?
I don't actually have my certificate (well I do but don't, I have a certificate that the dealer has a copy of and they have the unique certificate you are talking about) but if it is just the FI number I can find it for you. But I don't have the certificate you want so I may not have the number you mean.
But anywho encase you want it: 01424 215444
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MementoMori · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Karma :

Thanks Josh, you're right it is the certificate number I'm after.

Not sure what company's restriction kit is on my bike but thanks for the reply.
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Josh · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

Ste posted a picture of his in this thread https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=35870&start=0 don't know if that will help, if you don't mind me asking why are you looking for the number?
And thanks for making the thread, reminded me I have to pick that cert up too (not that it's essential)
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MementoMori · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Karma :

Yeah, I'd prefer to have it plus it'll look better when it comes to selling it.

Erm, I had a look at Ste's form on that link and the only number there was the F1 international one a couple of times. I'm pretty certain it's not their company but I'll get in touch with the previous owner, he might be able to tell me.

I need the number to find out what I need to do now that the sheet's been lost and how I get a new one.
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Mine is restricted by FI Int also,

I think that if you give FI International your Registration number, Make/Model and V.I.N. number with the Dealer / fitters details, they should have your cert number Thumbs Up

www.fiinternational.com

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TheDonUK · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Karma :

Dont mean to sound argumentative but as far as i am aware with any "crime" or "infraction" on the rules of the road, the onus is on the prosecution (the police in this instance) to prove innocence...

Although we are well on our way to guilty untill we say otherwise, it is still innocent untill proven guilty as far as i know.

Well if he wasent insured, cant really argue with that, but just to make it clear to everyone, the police have no way of telling by the roadside if your bike is restricted or not (bar them catching you doing a wheelie at 150). And when i got my producer it did say "33bhp restriction certificate" but that means squat. Sorry for going on a bit about it instigator it just seems strange....

Officer: Licence please
You: I dont have my wallet with me, sorry officer, would be happy to bring my documents into a police station ASAP.
Officer: Heres a producer for you sonny

However if you have flagged as not insured i suppose thats a different kettle of fish...

kawakid · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Karma :

I never have my license with me anyway.

Also i'm old so I bet they wouldn't guess I was at 33bhp (even if the copper new about 33bhp).

But mine is still restricted.
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MementoMori · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Karma :

Well I spoke to the previous owner, who told me the restriction was done by an independent company. He also told me the name of the bike shop the bike was bought from, so I might try and get in touch with that shop and see if they know who the local people are that restrict bikes.

Thanks for your help.
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sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

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TheDonUK · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Karma :

Seems a very expensive way of YOU paying to be on the police records...

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edd · Nearly there... Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Karma :

As others have said, there isnt an official database, FI international are a private company and have nothing to do with the police or DVLA. You arent ever asked to produce a certificate of restriction on a producer, because it isnt a legal document.

I also find it interesting thayt alhough lots of people swear that they know of someone who was once done for no restriction one wednesday on a full moon, No one on this forum, of which there are hundreds of regular users who are restricted has ever personally been prosecuted for this offence.

The police or VOSPA can test your bike if they have reason to believe that it produces more than 33bhp, allegedly. But if you have restricted it yourself then youll be fine, and if you havent there are quite a few ways to make it pass the test with 5 minutes fettling.

The most important thing that i think people forget about FI international restriction kits, certificates and the like is that they offer you no more protection than 4 washers from B&Q. Because the certificate means the square root of fuck all they can still test your bike, and if you have since taken the restrictors out and think the certificate will help you, you are in the same position as those that dont bother.
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instigator · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Karma :

Fair doo's re: not telling the DVLA. So Mr policeman that told me my bike was on his database as full power was talking pish then? Interesting... Thinking

Just realised that you can buy the kit yourself for 99 euro's from the company that they buy it from. Shocked

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edd · Nearly there... Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Karma :

Yeah

I think I do mean VOSA, I had thought it sounded wrong as i typed it.

As for what the police tell you, The police have told me on more than one occasion that it is an offence not to carry your documents whilst driving/riding. The police could tell you anything, doesnt make it true.
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