Defeat for net neutrality backers

[zaknafien]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5063072.stm

Defeat for net neutrality backers
US politicians have rejected attempts to enshrine the principle of net neutrality in legislation.

Some fear the decision will mean net providers start deciding on behalf of customers which websites and services they can visit and use.

The vote is a defeat for Google, eBay and Amazon which wanted the net neutrality principle protected by law.

All three mounted vigorous lobbying campaigns prior to the vote in the House of Representatives.

Tier fear

The rejection of the principle of net neutrality came during a debate on the wide-ranging Communications Opportunity, Promotion and Enhancement Act (Cope Act).

Among other things, this aims to make it easier for telecoms firms to offer video services around America by replacing 30,000 local franchise boards with a national system overseen by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).

Representative Fred Upton, head of the House telecommunications subcommittee, said competition could mean people save $30 to $40 each month on their net access fees.

An amendment to the Act tried to add clauses that would demand net service firms treat equally all the data passing through their cables.

The amendment was thought to be needed after the FCC ripped up its rules that guaranteed net neutrality.

During the debate House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, said that without the amendment "telecommunications and cable companies will be able to create toll lanes on the information superhighway".

"This strikes at the heart of the free and equal nature of the internet," she added.
Tim Berners-Lee, AP
The loss of neutrality could mean a two-tier net warned Berners-Lee

Critics of the amendment said it would bring in unnecessary government regulation.

Prior to the vote net firms worried about the effect of the amendment on their business lobbied hard in favour of the amendment. They fear their sites will become hard to reach or that they will be forced to pay to guarantee that they can get through to web users.

Meg Whitman, eBay chief executive, e-mailed more than one million members of the auction site asking them to back the idea of net neutrality. Google boss Eric Schmidt called on staff at the search giant to support the idea, and film stars such as Alyssa Milano also backed the amendment.

The ending of net neutrality rules also spurred the creation of activism sites such as Save The Internet and Its Our Net.

Speaking at a conference in late May, web creator Sir Tim Berners-Lee warned that the net faced entering a "dark period" if access suppliers were allowed to choose which traffic to prioritise.

The amendment was defeated by 269 votes to 152 and the Cope Act was passed by 321-101 votes.

The debate over the issue now moves to the US Senate where the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee will vote on its version of the act in late June. The debate in that chamber is also likely to centre on issues of net neutrality.
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[zaknafien]

These two ^^ are prime examples of why we'll continue to be fucked over at every opportunity.
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[zaknafien]

Do you have any idea of the ramifications of this? Are you even aware that the US controls the internet? Are you aware of the two tier system being proposed for the next generation internet?

Do you have any comprehension of where things are heading?
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[ButtMonkey]

Plus so what if they own the Net. That means they can crack down on properganda from terrorists. What comes, comes.
I don't make the decisions to get screwed. If you gotta problem with the way things are run, go and tell Big Bush and he will proudly Pop your ass and delete any living trace of you...and your dog!
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[m99dws]

If it means pervs can't look at kiddy porn it's worth the sacrifice.

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[Mister James]

[Paul@125power]

I can see what is being said. But, will this really affect us in the UK?

The USA may 'rule' the internet, but in terms of this, in my eyes, will only go as far as the USA and only then as far as the companies within the USA who choose to advertise at which alot of them don't and even fewer advertise to the UK.

That's what I think.
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[innominate]

Yeah it stucks bg style.


Very dangerous precedence.

We just need a brekaway net for ourselves Europe and ROTW.
The americans can be restricted to viewing only pages sponsored by Microsoft (or the federal government) and I would'nt care.


This idea just ruins all the simple and best parts of the net.



Pure greed showing through again, no thought for what the users actually want. Only what the scum can siphon off the net in profits for them selves.




Now that I have had my rant and now re-read the article in full...

[Mister James]

The Senate's closest equivilant here would be the Lords, although it is an elected body. However, American politics is even more littered with lobby groups than ours, and so yes, senators will be influenced by outside concerns rather than their own sense of The Right Thing To Do.
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[m99dws]

[Mister James]

According to the police, most child porn is passed around small closed groups on usenets and the like, rather than downloaded in browsers.

This attempted law deals with companies prioritising content based on the amount the provider is willing to bung them - the Coca-Cola-ising of the net, if you will.
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[Paul@125power]

[Mister James]

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[innominate]

OK, probably not very realistic summation but within the bounds of what could happen.



You are with, lets say, AOL for your internet.
AOL sign a deal with Google, for whatever reason.


AOL's direct competitor, we will arbritrarily go for Easynet, sign a deal with Yahoo.


As AOL don't want their competitors products/advertisements going to their own customers they could restrict or stop traffic to www.yahoo.com from their own subscribers and visa versa.





The only use I can see of the laws is for VOIP and VOD traffic. Voip traffic prioritised so that customers voice calls are not affected by network congestion. The same with VOD & this would have advantages for the company itself as if you have paid for Video On Demand then you will expect the best and fastest service.
Your provider will make sure you get this, but other web services could suffer as a result.


Imho, I think all traffic should be neutral & the providers shoul just upgrade their networks to cope with the traffic. May cost a little more, but all providers would have to do it , hence it would still be a level playing field.



Correct me if I am worng, but thats the gist as I see it.
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[craigie b]

For goodness sake

At present the internet is unregulated and uncensored. Your provider cannot stop you from viewing bigjugs.com or biker.whatever

The law that has been passed will mean network providers (i.e. NTL) can actually dictate what you, the customer, is actually allowed to view. Which in effect means you can only see what they want you to see.

That sucks, period.

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