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PostPosted: 20:43 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Savings account Reply with quote

When you were younger did you have like a saving account that your parents put abit of money in every so often for you?

Because I have just remembered about mine it has £1100 that I can have when I am 18 or now if it's sensible and I just wondered what you all spent yours on if you had one. Because I am thinking of putting it towards a bike or just leaving it there for when I need tyres or other such items, like a big service.

What did you do?

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PostPosted: 20:48 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me ? , mr boring crammed it into a high interest savings account (ING then the 4.75% HSBC internet account) to save for something maybe a house deposit or something but nothing long term which traps you into it like an ISA (not strictly traps but take £300 out and your Isa limit for that year falls by £300.

I didn't want o piss it away or anything considering it was 15 years of my mum throwing the odd bit of spare cash into the account.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Me ? , mr boring crammed it into a high interest savings account (ING then the 4.75% HSBC internet account) to save for something maybe a house deposit or something but nothing long term which traps you into it like an ISA (not strictly traps but take £300 out and your Isa limit for that year falls by £300.

I didn't want o piss it away or anything considering it was 15 years of my mum throwing the odd bit of spare cash into the account.


I like the idea of a high interest account but usually you don't really see the differences it adds like a few pence every year which is just stupid. Suppose they don't really want to give you free money. But yeah it would be a good idea because like you say my Mum has worked hard to put all this money into my account (There's 3 of us so that's like £3000 altogether I think) So any advice is welcomed.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was given my account at 16 but it was watched very strictly by my mum (when I say "strict" what I really mean is I hardly spent a thing knowing that she's kick my arse if I spent any unnecessarily). Was only about £400 if that.

Then I got myself a job and started putting money into it and hey presto......about 10 months later, I blew it all on a bike. Laughing Embarassed


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PostPosted: 20:57 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents saved £2000 for me which i got when i turned 18. It went straight into an ISA, but when the Reading tickets went on sale, i needed to use money from it to buy them as i had none in my current account, so its had £300 taken from it. I want to get it back up to £2000 again when i have some free money to put into it, then i will forget about it, and use it in emergencies etc...
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at these ISA things, what's the deal with them anyway?

I found this site https://www.moneyextra.com/compare/cashisas

And it lets you choose who to go with, I saw one at 5% (PA?) that lets you withdraw anytime and doesn't have a minimum withdrawal.

Anyone care to explain further?
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was 18 what had been my savings account became my current account and I spent my way through it keeping sane in my last year of school - was about a grand.
TBH once you're earning you can save money pretty fast if you're vaguely sensible with it, and when you're taking home ~1200 a month a grand isn't such a lot of cash any more.

General ISA idea is that you don't withdraw from it. Its all a little complex, but basicaly you can pay up to £3k a year into one, and the savings are tax free.
However, if you paid in 3k, than withdrew 1k, you couldn't pay that 1k back in again until the following tax year - you can only have 3k go into the account per tax year.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISAs are to replace peps and tessas (Much more generous than isas)

all the int from them is tax free so with 1K @ 5% you get £50 tax free
max is 3K per year.

its like this April 6th start of a new tax year you cram in £3000 ,

10 days later you find out you need £500 , so you go withdraw £500
, 1 day later you find you only need £50 , you can't put back the £450 that you took out in the same tax year.

Since ISAs only allow 3K movement of cash per year and 4K of shares , some building societies are better giving 5.45% but you have to pay tax and they have restrictions on withdrawl ie Halifax does a 5% one but hafta pay tax AND needs 90days before taking out.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, from that I can see that £50 a year isn't really that much to bother having the money stored away from me so I don't think I'll put it in there.

What job did you get for £1200 + a month Rob?

My Mum actually said to me to use it for touring Europe or Britain, or using it in the Summer to go watch MotoGP at different venues, but I think I'd rather store it or use it on something that I won't lose any of it on.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Premium bonds? , you get inflation about 2-4% , and a 1-million 2 1 chance of winning a million quid each month for free.

cept they lock in your money for ages.

EDIT

Don't believe the hype of the 8% HSBC or the Barclays 10% , they have so many T&C and so many restrictions that you can only get a few quid after a year rather than say cram in £10000 and get £1000 back
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use it on crappy stuff like tyres and servicing - thats boring and it won't feel like you've had any use out of it.

Your mum's suggestion is a good one. You can do a good tour of Europe on £1100.

In the meantime, ING have a good internet savings account. 4.5% with no daft tie ins - you can have your money as and when you want it.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

well don't spend it on your ER5 who knows when it'll die , unless you mean spending £5 on some petrol to torch it , 1.1K would go nicely towards a CB500 though.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
In the meantime, ING have a good internet savings account. 4.5% with no daft tie ins - you can have your money as and when you want it.


And what McJam forgot to mention is that ING are offering 6% gross APR between now and August 1st on anything you invest (only if you already have an account open before May 15th though) Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 21:47 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I jam the cash into an ING savings account, I will get £50 a year, that's if it stays at £1100.


McJ wrote:
Don't use it on crappy stuff like tyres and servicing - thats boring and it won't feel like you've had any use out of it.


Yeah I suppose so, what about using it on doing a trackday? That's starting to look more appealing.

I dunno about premium bonds, I don't understand them and that twat that advertises them cheeses me off. Laughing

Oh and Karen I am not 18 till October, so it won't be until then that I put anything in.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
So if I jam the cash into an ING savings account, I will get £50 a year, that's if it stays at £1100.


no you'll actually get a bit more since interest is paid on interest you earn since its not paid in one lump like some companies do (read Barclays / HSBC) on certain accounts

but it will actually be a bit less since :

you also have to pay 20% income tax on any interest you earn if you are a basic rate tax payer.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
phantomtek wrote:
So if I jam the cash into an ING savings account, I will get £50 a year, that's if it stays at £1100.


no you'll actually get a bit more since interest is paid on interest you earn since its not paid in one lump like some companies do (read Barclays / HSBC) on certain accounts


Ah good thinking, so they do inflation by the month then? I see the general concensus is to stick it in one of these accounts and let it grow, just use it for emergencies.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:


I dunno about premium bonds, I don't understand them and that twat that advertises them cheeses me off. Laughing


They are easy.

You "buy" bonds for £1 each (minimum £50 a time) and each month your bonds go into a draw, like a lottery.

You don't earn interest on your bonds, but it's still your money and you can get it back at any time, so really it's a way of saving with the chance to win a lot of money!!
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

karen_moomin wrote:
phantomtek wrote:


I dunno about premium bonds, I don't understand them and that twat that advertises them cheeses me off. Laughing


They are easy.

You "buy" bonds for £1 each (minimum £50 a time) and each month your bonds go into a draw, like a lottery.

You don't earn interest on your bonds, but it's still your money and you can get it back at any time, so really it's a way of saving with the chance to win a lot of money!!


thanks for the correction I was thinking of something else my apologies
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

karen_moomin wrote:
phantomtek wrote:
I dunno about premium bonds, I don't understand them and that twat that advertises them cheeses me off. Laughing


They are easy.

You "buy" bonds for £1 each (minimum £50 a time) and each month your bonds go into a draw, like a lottery.

You don't earn interest on your bonds, but it's still your money and you can get it back at any time, so really it's a way of saving with the chance to win a lot of money!!


Cheers for that.

Quite a good venture then I suppose, but the chances are slim to none I take it? Like I'd have 1100 chances of winning?

Sounds good.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
Quite a good venture then I suppose, but the chances are slim to none I take it? Like I'd have 1100 chances of winning?


Have a look here.

The chances are quite high of winning something - 24,000 to one. Much higher than the lottery. Prize money ranges from £50 to £1m.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my sister had tons of premium bonds and won sod all , and don;t forget by buying them you are propping up an evil regime.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karen_Moomin wrote:
Have a look here.

The chances are quite high of winning something - 24,000 to one. Much higher than the lottery. Prize money ranges from £50 to £1m.


Cheers again, better than I thought then.

Itchy wrote:
my sister had tons of premium bonds and won sod all , and don;t forget by buying them you are propping up an evil regime.


What regime is that?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
my sister had tons of premium bonds and won sod all , and don;t forget by buying them you are propping up an evil regime.


People put a quid on the lottery every week and loose it. With premium bonds you are not throwing your money away, just putting it somewhere where you can get it back.

How is it an evil regime? I buy £50 a month and can stop whenever I like. If I stopped now I'd still have a few hundred quid in there with the chance of winning.

Can't see any drawbacks really.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You make a good point. Have you won anything Karen?
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 09 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantomtek wrote:
You make a good point. Have you won anything Karen?


Not yet, I've only been investing £50 a month for a few months.

The way I see it is, even if I never win, I'm still putting a nice sum of cash away for a rainy day.
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