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Amorphous
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Car-phobia? Reply with quote

Background: I finally applied for a provisional driving license this year with the aim of getting CBT done at some point during the summer. Now that the license has arrived my dad keeps hinting at, referring to or outright stating that I should learn to drive a car as well. I suspect this is in the hope that I'll like the car so much I'll decide I don't like motorbikes.

Problem: I very emphatically don't like cars. I'm not really sure why, it just feels like gut instinct. I have no problem being a passenger, even when the driver is a learner or just recently passed, but I'm actually repulsed at the thought of driving a car myself and the idea of a Very First Driving Lesson makes me feel anxious. I don't get anything like this when I try to imagine the equivalent situation on a motorbike.

Has anyone got any insights, advice or relevant stories? I know the responses here may be somewhat biased, but I'd be interested them all the same since I've already asked my (pro-car) friends.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel exactly the same way about cars.

I'd like to get my car license though, just to have if you get me?
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could be like me a bit. i am worse though

i freaked out when learning to drive a car and was afraid to do over 15mph yet i can drive a bike at a ton? people cant understand that. i put it down to control, if i cant control it and its bigger than me i stay away from it. yes all bikes are bigger than me but cars are way bigger.

i couldnt even be a passanger in a car i freak out. mines a control thing.

i prefer bikes and thats that and my dad is even trying to get me to drive a car.

what exactly happens in cars for you?
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sephiroth wrote:
I'd like to get my car license though, just to have if you get me?


That's the reasoning my dad is using, sort of: he says it'll look good on a CV and that I don't have to get a car once I have the license. This prompts me to wonder what the point is if I'm never going to use it since I'll forget all the skills over time.

dragonfly wrote:
what exactly happens in cars for you?


I haven't actually had any sort of a lesson yet, so I can't answer that from a driving perspective. As I said, I feel fine as a passenger.

I think the problem may be the way I perceive cars, namely:
- claustrophobic - you're trapped in a little metal box hurtling around the environment but totally removed from it
- incredibly destructive - a car has more capability to kill innocent passers-by and pedestrians than a motorbike
- these two put together = big noisy death box

...whether those perceptions are in any way accurate is another matter, of course. My rationale for the second one is that a bike should be much more able to swerve if a small child suddenly runs on to the road. I care more about killing others than killing myself.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know i never met anyone that was so close to what i had as you.

it is very clausterphobic and freaks me out, i likethe air around me and space.

i care more about other people on road and think cars are leathal.

i dont trust many driving cars though for some reason i get nervous if i dont trust a driver. i have to control a bike and at least when i do i am resposible and know i dont intent killing others or myself cause i am being careful.

no harm to car drivers but i think they feel better with all that metal round them to protect them for wee bikes when thy drive dangerously and near kill us.

still i cant bring myself to drive a car. and i couldnt make anyone understand why.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dinnae worry, kiddies.
At least with bike licences, you'll be able to drive Reliant Robins.

Tell your dads that'll ... oughta keep 'em happy Mr. Green

(even if you'd never be seen dead in one, LMAO)
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you not need a full one for a trikey thingy? thought they where classed as cars? unless you take the roof off a relient robin and can filter quicky theni would be fine lol
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar fear of actually getting on a bike for the first time and to a lesser extent when I first learnt to drive (about 5 years ago now).

For me the feeling only lasted until I had mastered the controls, i.e could concetrate on what was going on around me rather than on piloting the vehicle. Having only spent a few hours on a bike I still feel it at times, but its fading pertty quickly Smile
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
do you not need a full one for a trikey thingy? thought they where classed as cars? unless you take the roof off a relient robin and can filter quicky theni would be fine lol


Possbily you do, yeah. Definitely can't drive one on a CBT, I shouldnt think.

You can't filter very effectively in a Reliant Robin (although No. 1 Mr hellkat has tried, LOL)
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 17 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT in February 2003, and gained my full motorcycle license in August 2004. I've now recently passed my full car driving test as well.

I rode motorcycles for 3 years before I started my car lessons, and although having driven a car for 3.5 months, I still prefer bikes! Mr. Green

Like some on here, the only reason I decided to get my full car entitlement in addition to my full motorcycle entitlement on my driving license was through neccessity (work, future family, etc).
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
i freaked out when learning to drive a car and was afraid to do over 15mph yet i can drive a bike at a ton?


I see where you're coming from. I was surprised at how different driving a car was to a bike though. Anyone planning on doing the car test after the motorcycle test will greatly benefit from the road sense and the theory behind gearboxes (i.e. clutch control) from riding a motorbike beforehand. Saying that, there's a lot of things that will be completely different too.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

we dont have cbt in northern ireland as far as i knew it was classed as a full car licence.

and for some reason wheni am stressed i freak out when i stop my bike at traffic lights? like i am going to be sick and run away lol

i been pretty stressed and down lately due to being dumped very badly. cracking me up.

sorry getting off topic. i ahve another thread for me cracking up lol
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBT is for motorcycles anyway, nothing to do with cars.

Maybe your feelings associated with the stress/traffic light combo is attributed to impatience. I know that's true for me when I'm stressed Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

think so. Crying or Very sad can be nothing to do with traffic lights cause i am a patient person its just when i am depressed i get it. wheni am happy i could sit there no prob and show off lol

my dad sayd the same thing about getting a car licence it will look ok on cv tut
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PostPosted: 03:37 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They took me out on the road for my first driving lesson, i personally dont think it was a good move, iwas crap and didn't enjoy it.

very werid driving a car comapred to a bike
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob84 wrote:
Anyone planning on doing the car test after the motorcycle test will greatly benefit from the road sense and the theory behind gearboxes (i.e. clutch control) from riding a motorbike beforehand. Saying that, there's a lot of things that will be completely different too.


This is why I've always wanted to do the motorbike thing first, I think my road sense would be a lot better. At any rate I want to do CBT before I have a first driving lesson because I think it might help to have already been introduced to some of the concepts. Also, on a more shallow note, I like motorbikes more and I refuse to allow cars to be my first motorised driving experience. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two feet, there pedals. Doesn't work.

I hated the fact that the car was so big and sluggish. Parking it was a nightmare. No more spotting a space and doing a stoppie into it......


You'll be an excellent driver though, its just those first few lessons. You don't have to worry about learning the read sense as you already have it.

Just remember that the car is fat and slow.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not natural ,

50000 or so years ago our ancestors saw these four legged things , and tried to eat them , they got very tired trying to catch them , some bright spark said why eat em? , why not ride em?.

Hence human evolution has been over the past 50000+ to sit on animals and ride them,

While cars have only been kicking around the last 150 years and only been avalible to the masses the last 70 years, while bikes since their inception have been avalible to everybody.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I prefer bikes to cars, it's fair to say that each can do things that the other can't. You're in the best position having a full license for both. Also, in this day and age it would be difficult without use of a car, like it or not!
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I disagree,

before getting a longish contract of work here in Mancs , I played flexible UK workforce lacky for about a year , I managed to move me lots of luggage all around the country hunting for temp jobs to get work experience , all over the country with just a bike , and some soft luggage.

for the bulkier items say bedding all you need is those roll out vacuum bags which don't need a vacuum to remove the air.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

But surely it would have been easier with a car... that's my only point really.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i applied for this job a while ago nd it said car essential and full licence. i phoned and asked them was provisioal ok with a motorbike and they said yes. at the interview they had a prob with the bike though. i am still waiting to hear but they have been sorting out referances for me and calling me all week. so have to wait and see does the bike make a differance.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob84 wrote:
But surely it would have been easier with a car... that's my only point really.


The moving and packing bit certainly since moving around and limited space meant you couldn't buy anything new unless you threw something out. Also the maintenance angle , limited tools.

But finding accomodation no which was mainly due to almost all the cities I've been have complex permit parking arrangements and backyards and lamp posts are infinately easier to find than parking permits.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 18 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
But finding accomodation no which was mainly due to almost all the cities I've been have complex permit parking arrangements and backyards and lamp posts are infinately easier to find than parking permits.


Agreed Thumbs Up

Hey, you could always fit a sidecar, and have all the worst aspects of a motorbike and a car together!
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PostPosted: 05:36 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
it is very clausterphobic and freaks me out, i likethe air around me and space


Forgive me if im being stupid but dont you wear a helmet which has to ultimately be alot more space depriving?

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