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DaveS
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Pillion Problems Reply with quote

Today I took my mate on the bike, i've taken girls on the back before but never a 6ft guy (I am also 6ft).

The problem we had was that he couldn't get comfortable. I know my bike is hardly designed for twos up fun but even so..
The real issue was under braking we kept clashing helmets, even though he said he was bracing with his hands against the tank, which led to him trying to look either side of me (unsettling the bike on bends).

Has anybody else been in similar situations? I'm curious to hear about your pillion 'compatability' problems. Smile

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PostPosted: 20:14 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its always the blokes, i have no problems with girls but when i take my gf's brother on the back it happens all the time, think they just figit to be honest, its worse when the topbox is off i findcoz they usually use it as a backrest.
tell him to 'old on properly Thumbs Up lol
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pillions are no bother, its down the rider being smooth really.

So long as pillions sit still you can still fly about just dont accelerate or brake as harshly.

Having said that I have done a stoppie with a pillion on and had my toes down.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
Pillions are no bother, its down the rider being smooth really.

So long as pillions sit still you can still fly about just dont accelerate or brake as harshly.

Having said that I have done a stoppie with a pillion on and had my toes down.



nah tom its just im the best pillion Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Re: Pillion Problems Reply with quote

DaveS wrote:
...real issue was under braking we kept clashing helmets...

Don't take this the wrong way but take it as a lesson to learn to ride more smoothly. SUdden braking is the cause. You may feel that's not a problem when you're solo but the bike is working harder than it should, and the road isn't always the place for racetrack braking techniques.

One trick is to practice and ride a certain road or series of them using the brakes, especially the front, as little as possible. This includes riding in town and the open road.

It's also a good idea to tell your pillion not to tense too much. Sit like a sack of potatoes and just go with the bike. When starting off with a pillion also treat it like a hillstart to make it smoother.

HTH Thumbs Up
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dodsi
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

firefox wrote:
dodsi wrote:
Pillions are no bother, its down the rider being smooth really.

So long as pillions sit still you can still fly about just dont accelerate or brake as harshly.

Having said that I have done a stoppie with a pillion on and had my toes down.



nah tom its just im the best pillion Very Happy


never had my toes down with you on the back, nowhere near.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing ok tom you win you bully Crying or Very sad
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DaveS
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 24 Jun 2006    Post subject: Re: Pillion Problems Reply with quote

map wrote:
DaveS wrote:
...real issue was under braking we kept clashing helmets...

Don't take this the wrong way but take it as a lesson to learn to ride more smoothly. SUdden braking is the cause. You may feel that's not a problem when you're solo but the bike is working harder than it should, and the road isn't always the place for racetrack braking techniques.

One trick is to practice and ride a certain road or series of them using the brakes, especially the front, as little as possible. This includes riding in town and the open road.

It's also a good idea to tell your pillion not to tense too much. Sit like a sack of potatoes and just go with the bike. When starting off with a pillion also treat it like a hillstart to make it smoother.

HTH Thumbs Up


Thanks for the advice.
You are right that smooth braking is the key, this improved during the journey and was a real lesson.
I think that the size and weight of the people I have taken on the back before covered up my relatively harsh riding.
I am still a new biker and am still finding my feet, riding with a pillion is a new skill to learn that will also help with my solo riding (smooth acceleration and braking etc..).

Just need to find some more willing victims Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: 00:22 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try these, I have a similar thing that I bought to go on the back of my dads R1. https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Pillion-Safety-Love-Handles-Grips-P-P-0-By-TTNRG_W0QQitemZ120000851719QQihZ002QQcategoryZ72277QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Works very very well, and you can use the handles to hold yourself away from the rider while braking or accelerating.

Also makes it much more comfortable and easy to lean for the rider!
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reevo8 wrote:
Try these, I have a similar thing that I bought to go on the back of my dads R1. https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Pillion-Safety-Love-Handles-Grips-P-P-0-By-TTNRG_W0QQitemZ120000851719QQihZ002QQcategoryZ72277QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Works very very well, and you can use the handles to hold yourself away from the rider while braking or accelerating.

Also makes it much more comfortable and easy to lean for the rider!


been a pillion while the rider was using these. The guy bought em for his missus cos he almost had a few off cos of her trying to counter-lean. I prefer being a pillion with someone using these than holding onto the grabrail, single handed sometimes, for dear life!
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn you tall bastards! , that said I make a great pillion , think Frankie Detorie but fat.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't braking the problem, moreso making gear changes smooth as I tend to let the clutch out quickly.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

All well andgood tellin em what to do but wheter they listen or not is a different story.
My bane is when like my lil brother or gf's brother get on they figit like crazy - my brother thinks its funny to stick his arms out and leanthe opposite way and gf's brother tucks his head by my side.
Women make better pillions coz they damn well listen Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 25 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The love handles look good but Im not sure I would like someone pushing on my waist whilst Im trying to brake. It could end up with me over the front and the pillion riding instead!! Or at least squashed plums Embarassed

I gave my mate (biker) a lift on the back of a hired hornet 6 last year. Im eleven stone and about 5'9 hes about 14st and 6'4. The biggest problems were his knees that were up against my elbows and the fact he was trying to turn the bike in before I wanted to! The missus by comparison who is a right shortarse and is only about 4 foot nowt was a right pain in the arse. Just wouldnt sit still. After two explanations I lost my patience and now she wont get on any more, GOOD!
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