Two strokes

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Hi guys.

I'll start with a little intro being the new kid and all. I'm 17 (18 end of the month) and living in Plymouth. I'm currnetly riding a Rieju SMX 125. I love the bike, but its just left me wanting more. I've decied to do my test with the money I get for my 18th birthday, which isn't a problem. The problem is which bike to get for my first "big bike". I was thinking a small two stoke. A 250 or something. There are a few I was thinking of and they are;

Aprilia RS 250
Yamaha RD 250
Kawasaki KX 200
Kawasaki KRI 250
Honda CRM 250

I'm looking for something quick, easy to ride and, as far as two strokes go, reliable (My scooter ceased up, which has kinda put me off two strokes a little, though these may well be very reliable!)

So, to all you experianced guys and older riders, which would be the best bet? Also recommenedations would be appriciated.

Cheers guys,
Mike.

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

That's quite an eclectic mix of bikes you have there Smile

What's wrong with a 4-stroke? They're generally more reliable and more readily available...

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Well theres nothing wrong with four strokes. I just thought a 250 two stroke, with the possible exception of the RS would be about the sort of power I was looking for so there would be no need to restrict it. What sort of four stroke off road/ mini big bikes are around that are the power I'm looking for? I haven't really looked into the four stroke side of things much.

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

2-stroke 250s do sound lovely though Very Happy

What sort of license do you have? Are you on the 2 year 33bhp restriction?

EDIT: sorry, just re-read your first post Embarassed

NSR Mick · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Karma :

A 2 stroke will be harder to restrict to 33bhp.
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Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Rob. I've got a crappy provisional at the moment but when I take my test (End of this month) I'll be on the two year 33 BHP because I'm an irresponeible hooligan with no cares whatsoever about anyones safety.

Mick. I was thinking that the 250 two strokes would be around the kinda power I want so they wouldn't need restricting.

MRX Steve · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Karma :

You would have to restrict a 250 2 stroke, the rs125 puts out just under 33bhp derestricted. Would be much better off getting a 400/600 4 stroke.
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Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

As far as <33bhp 4-stroke off roaders go...

Honda XR250, Kawasaki KLX250/KMX200/KLR250, Suzuki DR200/DR250/DR350, Yamaha DT200/TT250, and other makes. Larger trailies (i.e. 400cc+) can be restricted fairly easily.

I had a DR350, brilliant bike, 30bhp.

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

Do remember that you don't need to limit yourself to bikes at or under 33bhp in stock form.

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Steve. Do you reckon it would be a good idea to buy an RS 125 and tinker with it a little?

Rob. Same kinda question really, seeing as you mentioned not having to have a 33 bhp stock bike.

MRX Steve · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Karma :

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

With a 33bhp restriction? No, personally I would get something like a 400, 500, or even 600, and restrict it, which can cost between £130 and £180. After your 2 year 'sentence' is over - remove the restriction and you have a new bike for next to nothing Mr. Green

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Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

You may even be able to blag having a restrictor kit fitted for free, depending on where you get the bike from. My dealer threw it in with my 500, fitted, for free.

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Hmm, that sounds like the way to go actually. I know you can buy some bikes new with a restrictor kit in them, but which would be the bets kinda thing to go for?

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

I could be wrong, but I think that only applies to 50s and 125s, to limit their power output. Everything else is sold with their full power potential.

If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Yea, but I'm sure a 125 2 stroke is quicker than a 125 4 stroke.

EDIT. Quoted the wrong thing, this is moving too fast for me lol. That was meant for the guy who said about the 125 thing.

jay_666 · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Karma :

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

OK, cheers, didn't know that Thumbs Up

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Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

https://www.batmotorcycles.co.uk/33bhp.asp

This is quite a good site that tells you what >125cc bikes are <33bhp as standard, along with those that are >33bhp that have restrictor kits available. However, some bikes will take the restriction better than others (e.g. a CB500 over an R1).

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :

Vulcha · Derestricted Danger Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Karma :

Haha. And R1 at 33 bhp. What a waste of time. Also, if I'm gonna go for a restricted bike I'd want something which when it was de-restriced was not a massive power jump. Something around 40-50bhp. In other news, I'm going to go to bed as I have work tomorrow. I'll back on tomorow evening to read up on this. Cya folks and cheers for the help.

Lawnie · Nearly there... Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Karma :