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PostPosted: 13:41 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Trimming the waist... Reply with quote

I know it’s all been said before but it’s possible I need some different techniques to try out…..I’m pretty sure some of you have some decent knowledge as there are all sorts of people on here.

Please bear in mind I think my belly is due to consumption of a lot beer, so what I’m after is a simple routine that I can follow to trim the belly. TBH I’m happy with everything else, nothing has fat on it really, but I’m concerned about how tight some jeans are becoming…..
Ok first my diet, and what I general consume in my day, just so you don’t end up telling me to eat something I shouldn’t be.

Breakfast:- I get to work and eat breakfast, usually comprising of some sort of cereal bar and coffee.

11am:- Sandwich van comes and I buy a baguette, usually tuna or something not too heavy. A packet of crisps, a chocolate bar, an apple and probably a can of pop.
I drink a lot of water in the day.
But I usually eat all of this before 1pm.

5pm:- This is random as it can be, although the missus is good with the food. Rice dishes, salad, pasta, not too much red meat, chicken, fish etc…. Sometimes though I will end up with a ready oven meal like Chilli con carne or something.

From then until bed I will drink a couple of beers, if this is the weekend I usually snack and beer consumption is tripled. So I don’t eat really badly, nor do I snack all day on chocolate and crisps, but I could cut things out. I don’t do any exercise TBH at the moment, only the odd sit-ups and press-ups.

I guess the time I can do said exercise is from when I get home from work until the missus gets back (1 hour)
Or at the weekends……
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: Trimming the waist... Reply with quote

If you want to lose a bit of weight fairly quickly, just eat less calories.

I find a couple of slices of toast with marmite for breakfast and lunch then a fairly low calory meal in the evenings does the trick - about 1000 calories a day.

Lost about 10lb in six days like this.

Obviously you then need to try and sort out the number of calories you're taking in / using to keep it off.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simplest thing would be to cut down on the beers, try to reduce the weekend snacking and as you say, increase the exercise. Getting out on a push bike, swimming etc.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only have 1 chocolate bar a week as a treat assuming you've met all the other goals yovue set, diet and exercise.

Replace the chocolate/crisps with a piece of fruit. I can tell your not saying exactly what you eat because that just isnt enough for a person in a day. Unless your meal's are rather large. Make a diary of exactly what you eat over a few days and then look at it and you'll see where your going wrong.

Go to the gym 2-3 times a week and do the exercises you like. If your not a gym person then take up an activity/hobby that you like. Join a local football team, take up squash/badminton or jogging/running etc.

Consume alchohol once a week as a treat if you must, and even then only a small amount. Or prefferrably none.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three simple steps:

1) Cut right down on the beer, they're quite colorific (a la LH-ER5). Drinking only water whenever possible.

2) Cut down on the calories (a la G), avoid anything high in sugar and fats. Eat as much protein as you like. When you're eating healthily, actually reaching your 2500 RDA is pretty difficult.

3) Get you arse down the gym but don't fall into the trap of just doing weights: you'll need a lot of CV to shift your gut as the body likes having fat there. If you can't get to a gym, do what Reuben said and start jogging, it's beautiful out there!

The trick is reaching a balance, one you can sustain.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, that’s helpful…..

One thing, I used to go swimming 3 times a week and I could do an hour and go at it quite hard.
I spoke a girl who was a lifeguard and she put me off by saying, to loose weight you’d have to do loads of swimming and do it very hard. Is this true, I mean I’m not over weight it’s just my weight has all gone to me stomach, surely what I was doing was good.
I read somewhere sex and swimming are two of the highest calorie burners. I’m confused.

I love the swimming, is running just as good, or better?
Do activities like this shift the weight where I want it or do I have to combine a few?

The gym at the YMCA is £50 a year and £3 or 3.50 for every session!! I can’t afford that.
The other gym is £25 a month, I’m considering it but I don’t think I’m flush for that either.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you have very much the same diet and excercise routine as myself.

At the grand old age of 27 with little excercise I've started to develop belly fat as well.
I like my ales and a smoke on the weekends which leads to over eating of fine foods such as maryland cookies, kettle chips and curry. Obviously not on the same plate.

I used to be able to drink hundreds of pints of stella per week and eat anything without effect, but no more.

If you cut out beer completely during the week(I know it's a bastard). I think it's easier to cut out completely than cut down. Cut out the crisps and chocolate at lunch, that's a lot of fat. After you've done a day or so you lose the need. Eat something different to change the habit.
Simply eat less, smaller portions. I've found I don't need half of what I usually eat even if I'm feeling very hungry.

Do 50 press ups and sit ups in the evening or morning. It helps to make you feel a tighter overall and feel like you're making progress.

That's what I do and it does work. Of course I slack of for a week here and there or eat too much on the weekends but often feel the need to lighten up and keep things in check.

It doesn't take much but as you get older I think it's very important to keep that gut at bay or it will be very hard to get rid of once it's there.
Some of the blokes I see walking around like pregnant women scare me to death.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

akaDAVE wrote:
Some of the blokes I see walking around like pregnant women scare me to death.


Your story is pretty much the same as mine, so best to shift it now i guess.
I know what you mean about guys letting themselves go.

Cheers guys... Wink Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 16:11 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Cool, that’s helpful…..

One thing, I used to go swimming 3 times a week and I could do an hour and go at it quite hard.
I spoke a girl who was a lifeguard and she put me off by saying, to loose weight you’d have to do loads of swimming and do it very hard. Is this true, I mean I’m not over weight it’s just my weight has all gone to me stomach, surely what I was doing was good.
I read somewhere sex and swimming are two of the highest calorie burners. I’m confused.

I love the swimming, is running just as good, or better?
Do activities like this shift the weight where I want it or do I have to combine a few?

The gym at the YMCA is £50 a year and £3 or 3.50 for every session!! I can’t afford that.
The other gym is £25 a month, I’m considering it but I don’t think I’m flush for that either.


I'm pretty sure running is the 'best' calorie burner: there's a science to getting it just right i.e. fat burn and not aerobic exercise but, above all, you should get good results from running.

That said, running is high impact and not very user friendly which is why cross-training machines, cycling and swimming are popular. I'd guess that swimming would be the best workout out of all of those.

Mixing your exercise is good as it makes it fun but just remember, all the sit-up in the world wont mean a thing if you've got a gut that needs shifting.

Sex is a good form of exercise but unfortunately the average nookie session doesn't last anywhere near long enough for fat burn! Embarassed
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing aaaargh not more exercise threads Laughing

More exercise and less calories. Its dead simple. I believe maximum fat burning can be achieved at 85% of your hearts maximium rate which isn't overly difficult to sustain. An hour of fairly intense running/swimming/cycling should see at least 800 calories off.

Switch you beer to vodka and lemonade Thumbs Up 250 calories to nearly zilch if you must drink Thumbs Up

I've read in numerous books that eating little meals all during the day is an excellent method for keeping your metabolism burning at full pelt and this is what I do.

E.G first thing in the morning I have fruit smoothie (freshly made, raspberries, strawberries, banna) and either some cheese toast, a sausage done on the foreman grill, or some Irish Soda bread. I reckon total 300 - 400 calories, but nothing there which I think is particulary none apealing.

At 10.30 I have either a slice of toast or a cereal bar or some fruit....so once again 100 calories.

12.30 A bowl of soup (normally some kind of veg soup) so between 80 and 200 calories.

2 oclock ish I have some more fruit

4 oclockish Either more fruit or some tea and biscuits.

6 oclock proper hearty meal including pasta/rice/potatoes with some kind of meat. Probably 800+ calories.

After that I'm full till bed time. Eating like that means your literally never hungry and if your combine it with training you mentally begin to see food as a fuel source more than a simple means of pleasure.

BTW at the weekend I fuck it all out the window and eat whatever Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most exercise isn't actually that good when compared to how easy it is put weight on - though that's a good way to not eat so much.

Burn 100 calories at the gym, then when you pick up a snack, have a look at the calories and consider if you /really/ want to spend an hour or two burning it off, or more!
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it takes you an hour to burn 100 calories your doing something far wrong.

A long distance run of 80 minutes will see a good 1500 calories burnt easily. I imagine this is similar to cycling or swimming.

The 'exercise isn't that good argument' tends to come from lazy people Wink
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely if you stop buying so much alchohol the money you save can be spent on the gym?
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note I didn't specify that it would take an hour to burn 100 calories; I'm presuming people can do the basic maths themselves Smile.

Taken from this site:
https://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist3.htm

Seems running is quite 'good', well, if you run constant 5.5 minute miles at least Smile.

With the half a big bag of crisps and drink I've just had, I've easily taken in about 400 calories, so a reasonable slightly leisurley hours exercise!

Presume that site is right, no way I could 'easily' run 5.5 minute miles for 80 mins. Infact doubt I could run a 5.5 minute mile in the first place - maybe one at a push but no more.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a bit of a gut forming from not much exercise and a fairly regular few beers a night. Since I've got back into mountain biking and avoided 'non-social' beers it's mostly dissapeared. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calorie counting is the future. If you consume less energy than you expend, something's got to give? Wink
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My weight could be a LOT better and i have high blood pressure. I seem to have no will power and I am just no good at sports, although I enjoy cycling. Although I do find that if I exercise I am less likley to snack as I would'nt want to undo the work I have done.
Although I lose weight a couple of years, but then again i was having an 'affair' and the stress, flatery, feel good factor did a lot towards that.
But I know how you feel Killa, its depressing.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the other replies, but the key is definately exercise... together with a moderately reduced calorie intake (~1500 maybe).
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

All great replies people....thanks for the effort!

G i'm sure the calorie burning isn't all that much for most exercise like you say, but also remeber i'm not trying to loose loads of weight. Toning is different i think.
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, I find I rarely lose weight by exercise - and if I do, it's so slow that I kinda lose the focus.
Also, for me, again, it requires a lot more focus than losing weight through not eating so much for a bit - a target to finish in a week is a bit easier to aim for.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Note I didn't specify that it would take an hour to burn 100 calories; I'm presuming people can do the basic maths themselves Smile.

Taken from this site:
https://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist3.htm

Seems running is quite 'good', well, if you run constant 5.5 minute miles at least Smile.

With the half a big bag of crisps and drink I've just had, I've easily taken in about 400 calories, so a reasonable slightly leisurley hours exercise!


I do an 8 minute mile and am nearer 190lbs so an hours training to burn of 1078 calories seems fair to me Thumbs Up

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Presume that site is right, no way I could 'easily' run 5.5 minute miles for 80 mins. Infact doubt I could run a 5.5 minute mile in the first place - maybe one at a push but no more.


And theres the reason the UK is becoming the second most obese nation in the world.....'easily'.

I have to rag myself silly to consistantly run an 8 minute mile for ten miles. It is definitely not easy but it does work and it tones up your entire body whilst strengthening your heart and lungs.

Don't get me wrong, everybody is different, but if you find you rarely lose weight with exercise then your probably not training with any real concerted effort or duration.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go fat boy; Wink

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PostPosted: 12:18 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
Here you go fat boy


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PostPosted: 12:37 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigie b wrote:

And theres the reason the UK is becoming the second most obese nation in the world.....'easily'.

Indeed, I'm lazy, that's why I'm over weight Smile.

I can do exercise for that long if I'm enjoying it to some degree, but running I can't get any enthusiasm for. Cycling I can handle for that sort of time, but probably not to that degree of effort.

On a treadmill I can do about a 7.5minute mile (or could a few months ago, have had a bit of a dodgy back recently so haven't been doing much Confused ). No way I could sustain that for an hour.

I can do an hours hard exercise in a visit to the gym, abiet doing different things. (Or longer doing something like cycling in the real world). However we're talking about a maybe 750 calorie deficiet on one day - and this is presuming I am watching what I'm eating and don't eat more anyway, which I find I tend to naturually.

I believe I've got a fairly slow metabolism meaning I 'use up' energy fairly slowly, as it were (if it works like that).
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eat porridge, drink lots of water & walk everyday.

I could'nt do it though cause I love my wine, beer & grub too much!
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